04-25-2010 09:00 AM
A good way to think about it, and to avoid all the hassle of getting a refund, is that you have the right in the future to use Windows on your laptop. You never know when it might become handy because Wine or Virtual Box won't cut it. If time is money, then it is probably worth not bothering :-)
Anyway, good luck on these refunds. I already have a copy of Windows 7 that I could have installed on my ThinkPad but I figure having a non-OEM license will be useful. I can understand the desire for a refund if you're absolutely certain you'll never use the OEM license.
05-14-2010 04:07 PM
Hello,
I've just bought another Lenovo. The one I already got mostly runs a Fedora, Vista sleeps on a partition, since I bought it.
Next week I'll get a U350. How could I return Seven licence as I'll never use it? Is there a known process within Europe/France?
Best regards
05-17-2010 06:12 AM
lead_org wrote:
There is hardly any companies that sell laptops without OS, unless you order through the corporate channel. This is the market reality. Also, Lenovo won't charge you hundreds of dollars for these OS, as these OS are not retail version but are OEM version, the profit level on these OS options are minimal.
You are already seeing the future, Microsoft OS will be on your laptops whether you like it or not. Just like Macbook/Pro is going to be bundled with Mac OS whether people like it or not.
1- It costed me over a hundred dollars.
2- Cheap or expensive, I don't want to pay for something I won't use anyway.
3- Windows might be your future, but it is not mine.
4- No, it won't be in my laptop. It isn't right now and I got my money back.
5- Even if I was a Windows user, I would get my refund anyway. OEM sucks.
6- Do a Google search and you will see a lot of people around the world are denying the "future" that was forced into their computers.
05-18-2010 08:53 AM
ottoteixeira wrote:
lead_org wrote:
There is hardly any companies that sell laptops without OS, unless you order through the corporate channel. This is the market reality. Also, Lenovo won't charge you hundreds of dollars for these OS, as these OS are not retail version but are OEM version, the profit level on these OS options are minimal.
You are already seeing the future, Microsoft OS will be on your laptops whether you like it or not. Just like Macbook/Pro is going to be bundled with Mac OS whether people like it or not.
1- It costed me over a hundred dollars.
2- Cheap or expensive, I don't want to pay for something I won't use anyway.
3- Windows might be your future, but it is not mine.
4- No, it won't be in my laptop. It isn't right now and I got my money back.
5- Even if I was a Windows user, I would get my refund anyway. OEM sucks.
6- Do a Google search and you will see a lot of people around the world are denying the "future" that was forced into their computers.
Well you are not locked into any contract, so you may choose to purchase a machine that fits your need. If bundling of windows with a laptop is unacceptable to you, then you can always find another make/model that does not bundle the Windows OS.
Yes google search does bring up a lot of things, including torrent links to bootleg copies of windows, which many people do download and use extensively. Whether using a free copy of windows make it Win OS more palatable is quite debatable.
I don't see the issue with OEM Windows, since the serial number on post-XP can be transferred between OEM and non-OEM machines.
05-19-2010 05:51 AM
Yeah, but, well, I wanted THAT model. Luckily I was able to get it and then be refunded for the OS.
I don't think you can transfer a OEM license to non-OEM. In fact I've never heard about it. If that is true, then why is it cheaper if I can use it as non-OEM? OEM would have no purpose I guess.
05-19-2010 06:08 AM
yes you can transfer the serial number between OEM and retail version of the Win OS for post-XP systems. It works on Vista and Win 7, i have personally tried it.
05-21-2010 12:08 PM - edited 05-21-2010 12:08 PM
05-21-2010 02:11 PM
> with freedos or linux based( non- operation system installed )
I think such an answer is unacceptable.
> if you use or not, you have to buy the licence.
But I am looking for a way to return it. The U350 offers I found where only bundeled with Seven.
I'll use Linux only on this laptop. Why sould I pay for Seven?
05-22-2010 07:54 AM
you shouldn't, but you have no option.
but still, give a shot, and call lenovo or/and microsoft support line.
search the web for another laptop free operation system installed
( i've seen on turkish and russian websites, with no operation system installled or linux installed - option )
05-26-2010 09:40 AM
Impaire wrote:Hello,
I've just bought another Lenovo. The one I already got mostly runs a Fedora, Vista sleeps on a partition, since I bought it.
Next week I'll get a U350. How could I return Seven licence as I'll never use it? Is there a known process within Europe/France?
Best regards
There are dozens of reports in the entire world. North and South America, Australia, Europe etc. Check here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_refund or do a Google search.