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Titan
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Re: Disk Partioning and OneKey Recovery Feature


shumpert wrote:

Update From the Engineers:

 

I have been informed by the engineering team that there will be an update to the OneKey application to address the partitioning issues that customers are having.  They are busy working out the details now.  As soon as I get a release date from the team I will post it here and will include a download link once it is released.


 

This is good news indeed! 

 

Will this solution also apply to the Idea Centre?  If so, would you post a similar notice in the idea centre forum for the beneift of those customers too?

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janicej
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Dear Skripatch:  I see now why the disk is "scraped clean" -- it is an image fix.  I guess I didn't think about that process, I was visualizing a reinstall of the operating program.  Some sort of operating system "reinstall" would probably work better  since this would not wipe out other items on the drive.  Or, maybe some sort of automatic backup system that the user is alerted to make once a week or so would be preferred to the set image of the first install.  That way, the image would be new and would include all the changes and data?  Actually, that is what I am doing now with my revised partitions.  I still haven't deleted the one-key area (I don't know if I can do that very easily and I put a tape over that button), but I have a much bigger C drive now (69GB).  Paragon Partition Manager is a great tool that doesn't destroy the data on a drive when it repartitions -- that is, after you have unlocked the hard drive! The program is very easy to use... intuitive, as it were.   I sympathize with all the "crashes" that you assist.  I have had many over the years myself, but am always not anticipating that they will happen.   In fact, they usually happen because I am trying to make some update or other such.   I have one computer on which I have never been able to install Win XP, svc pk 2.  It crashes every time (4 times so far).   I learned early to make backups of my data and essential files (usually to CDs or DVDs).  Now, I make ghost or other backup images and these have come in handy often.  This small hard drive really threw me -- I discovered it right away when I looked to see what was on the computer.  Having had BIG problems with little operating drives (memory space became severely impacted, for example, slowing my processes), I was horrified to discover my C drive was so small.  When I tried to change it, I discovered that I was "locked out", but finally relieved to find out that I could change the password to get access through F2 (the bios).  I really advise all of these people to resize their C drive -- forget the image replacement offered by the one-key recovery.  Learn to make backups.  Herein lies all of your salvation.  I hope Lenovo can think of some way to patch this one-key operation.  But, I fail to see how they can fix it unless they have the computer in hand.  I hope I am wrong.  Anyway, this notion of moving programs and files around to other drives to clear up space is just sheer nonsense and entirely unnecessary in a good operating machine.  It may have worked in the old dos machines when all of the program files were in one directory, but since Microsoft started keeping all the operating instructions and files in the registry and in the Windows system directories, this is not a practical solution at all.  This rescue system was not a good idea at all (IMO).  Being told to go to the forum to solve my problems also was not too swift on the part of Lenovo.  I thought some technical person could advise me on how to readjust my partitions or something.  I guess not.  Anyway, I am happy now, so I guess I will stop complaining.
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klperez
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Skripatch-

I don't think you are very kind.  You make me feel like an idiot and I do not appreciate it.  Why would anyone suspect that they would be required to learn a new way to store their personal information COMPARED TO EVERY OTHER COMPUTER I HAVE OWNED?  That's the part that ticks me off.  Your Ford analogy stinks and I sincerely don't appreciate your rudeness.

 

Do you know how many steps there are to get to my things that I need that are stored on the D drive?  Sorry, of course, you know everything.  I do not WANT TO go through all of those extra steps.  I want it to be easy, like my other four computers.  And easy for a non-computer-literate teenager to use.  Please don't insult her and say that she is stupid, too, as her brains got her a free ride in a college where the tuition is $40,000/year.   She had better than a 4.0 GPA and she is going into medicine.  But she is not computer-savvy.

 

You are a wonderful, talented guru and I'm sure some of the others here appreciate you.  Telling someone how stupid they are isn't really all that kind, and you would think someone "smart" like you would find a tactful way of saying things.

 

Kim, the D drive idiot 

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MTDoiT
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janicej
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MTDoIT -- I guess you have not read my replies on this subject.  I have given a solution to the "problem".  It is the ONLY solution that will work and make you happy.  You really have to resize your C partition, and forget the one-key image rescue effort.  If you make a backup of your C drive and save it occasionally elsewhere -- like the D drive, or perhaps on several DVD-R disks, or better, a plugged-in USB harddrive-- this will accomplish the same as a one-step recovery.  These are really dirt cheap now -- 500 GB for about $100 -- and, they work really well.  The way to repartition is simple, fairly easy, and you do not need to resort to Linux to do it.  Procedure:  (1) Buy a copy of Partition Manager from Paragon -- go to the webbsite.  Not expensive. (2) Before you sign in to your computer, press F2 and enter the bios.  (3) Find the password settings section and change (set) the harddrive password.  Press F10 to save it.  This will unlock your harddrive so that you can manipulate the partitions. Be sure to make this a word that you can remember -- write it down somewhere if nothing else.  Read your little book that came with the computer. (4) Reboot with new password. (5) Install Paragon Manager and follow instructions.  This program will redistribute the space in your C drive into the current D partition.  Make it any size you like, the data will NOT be destroyed.   This program always gives you a second chance to change your mind before you select "APPLY" the changes.  (6) Make  a habit of backing up your data every day you change it.  You do not always need to back up the complete C drive.  The entire drive could pack it in and you need an exterior source for the hard work you have done.  I hope that I have outlined the procedure clear enough -- if not, please come back to me.
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MTDoiT wrote:

I best keep those opinions to myself, or risk getting another private message.


 

No, I'll just make this one public instead of sending out individual PMs as I did last night since it applies to each of you who are part of this discussion.  Please read the following excerpt from the Community Rules of Participation which everyone agrees to abide by when you register.

 

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MTDoiT
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Re: Disk Partitioning and OneKey Recovery Feature

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Janicej,  Thank you for your clearly defined procedure for repartitioning the drive. 

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janicej
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Re: Disk Partitioning and OneKey Recovery Feature

Sorry may suggestions won't help.  I guess the warranty could be important.  I don't worry about that.  In fact, I don't subscribe to any extended warranties either.  If it totally packs it in, so be it.  It isn't my life-blood savings invested for sure.  I could have returned the computer within 30 days and would have been completely free and clear.  I chose to make the computer work for me, warranty or no.  I like the computer and I hope it will last for many moons.  I have some 6 computers in my home and vacation place -- this is one for travel.  My first experience with Vista, but so far so good.  You have to call it as you see it.

 

 

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klperez
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I read through the instructions from Janice, and think I could do that, but I did buy the extended warranty, and called the company and they said if ANYTHING happens after I do something like that, the warranty is null and void.

 

So....

 

I guess I could wait until Lenovo comes up with THEIR way of re-doing this to make my computer user-friendly.  

 

Sorry, moderators, for the use of the term "guru."  It was one which had been lovingly applied to that guru before, either by him/herself or by one of the moderators.  I meant it in a totally respectful manner, and was only pointing out that since I am NOT one, I would appreciate help, not humiliation, in resolving what I consider to be a problem.

Kim 

 

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azmanathrt
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Re: Disk Partitioning and OneKey Recovery Feature

We spoke with Lenovo Customer support at 877-453-6686.  They are sending us, for free, discs that will remove the current one key set up and allow us to install the all software from scratch into one big C drive.  At this point, we don't care about the 1 Key Feature.  Too much time and aggravation has been expended.

 

Unfortunately, the recovery discs that come with the Y510 do not include this disc they are sending: the discs included in the box will only restore it to its original configuration with the partitioning.

 

We have 2 of these IdeaPads, and will report to you the outcome after we have basically installed Vista and its necessary components, and then whatever software WE want.  We may choose to make a smaller D partition, but since most of our programs want to install into C, even in Expert or Custom Mode, we need at least 80gbs in C: at the least.

 

What's ironic is that Windows Vista automatically downloaded Service pack 1, which is said requires about 5gb of free space.  There is not 5gb of free space on the C drive with only the software this came loaded with.

 

This is an attempt to salvage our investment, and will probably give these units to others in the office requiring less programs and a lightweight video card.  Thos of us who need to use graphically demanding software should not have even tried to make these Y510 do more than they were designed to do.  At under $800 each, I guess you get what you pay for. (but that does not mean it is okay to market laptops that require reformating to be useful!)

 

Good luck to all, and I'll let you know how the removal of the partition and onekey worked out.

Jeff