11-06-2008 04:54 PM
I have had my Lenovo 3000 N200 for about 3 weeks now.
I can honestly say my productivity for programming has dropped by around 30% just because of the annoying issue of the FN key having been swapped where you'd expect to see the Cntrl key.
Having spent 10 years using laptops with the key the other way around, do you honestly expect being to rewrite their neurological motor cortex and replace the habbit of a lifetime just because you think the FN key should go far left of the keyboard?
Aside from this, did you not consider when you designed the machine that the Cntrl key would be used far more frequently than the FN key and that its much easier to locate the further most key than to use your hands to fumble inwards?
As a result of this stupid trend-setting I have wasted hundred of pounds on this laptop and nobody from your department seems to give a **bleep**
When you type "lenovo function key swap" into Google you get 17,900 results. I suppoed we're all wrong aren't we.
I would say I spent about 1,000 per year on average on a new laptop. I changed from a DELL this time. Let's say I'm programming for another 30 years. You've done yourself out of 30K of revenue simple because of a BIOS patch that could be written in about half a day.
Lenovo support, please where is the BIOS swap for these two keys???
Please somebody at Lenvo, please Google this problem and see how many other people find this very annoying. See some sense and produce a BIOS alteration to swap these keys.
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11-07-2008 05:20 AM - edited 11-07-2008 05:23 AM
And what about Delete and Pause swap? Smarter?
Anyway my workaround is to use AutoHotkey. Google it.
this is my AutoHotkey.ini to swap the PgUp<>Home and PgDn<>End functionality
Hope this help, Jonathan
P.S. ignore the smileys it is ": P" without the space
11-08-2008 02:47 AM
Thanks for the tip. Using the AutoHotKey software the AutoScriptWriter would not recognise the FN Key being pressed.
It looks like the FN key is hardware key and not re-assignable by Windows or any software...
So Lenovo, how about the BIOS fix for switching the FN key with the Ctrl key?
12-04-2008 01:22 PM
03-29-2009 08:46 AM - edited 03-29-2009 08:47 AM
I joined the forums just to 'me too' this issue.
I love my notebook so far (works like a charm with Kubuntu), but the Fn/Control swap is extremely annoying.
So please Lenovo, do your customers a favor and offer a bios upgrade with an option to fix this.
07-13-2009 01:12 PM
10-26-2009 07:42 AM
I am a senior developer addicted to personal efficiency while using my computer. That makes real sense when you're in front of that machine 10 hours every day. So I've been making use of every single hotkey and shortcut available out there. I've been running mouse gesture utilities and using a special keyboard layout to speed up even more...
... Then suddenly I bought this notebook and felt like I've crashed against the wall:
o The left 'Fn' key and the 'Ctrl' are reversely located.
o The 'Del' key is instead of totally at the top right, two keys further left.
o Home and End keys are are just not there at all. I still can't believe it! Who on earth has taken this decision to remove those keys, for God's sake?
Now I have to make annoying Fn moves. I don't even want to think about removing my hands from the keyboard and using the mouse each time I have to navigate within a document. And there's those typos and pauses while I have to find where the heck that Ctrl button was!
Now I am far slower and inconfident with this keyboard. I would love to switch to another one if there was. But I don't want to use an additional usb keyboard either. That's not how it should have been at the first place, right?
I've written this to Lenovo Support Center, but as expected, all I got was a kind thank you message.I am really really curious if there's anyone in Lenovo who cares about good design for expert users!!
Well, thanks for reading this.
10-26-2009 08:20 AM
Lenovo is considering a Bios switch mode for the Fn and Ctrl keys.
For further explanation please go to Lenovo Yamato Think Blog here.
Or Vote directly for Bios switch on Lenovo Blog Design Matters here.
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10-26-2009 09:58 AM - edited 10-26-2009 09:59 AM
Let this be a lesson to Lenovo. Have you ever heard of the expression “the customer is always right”?
I will never buy another Lenovo product ever again. I prized-off the function key with a screwdriver after it drove me insane. After only a year the left-control key stopped working altogether making the whole machine unusable. Irronically, I bought this machine because I heard the keyboards were good.
Lenovo.. your arrogance is costing your financially. The solution is simple. Take a deep breath and stop listening to those marketing numb-skulls in your company and listen to common sense.
You’re trying to build a machine that suits your customers. Remember those people? ‘customers’ – they are the people who pay your wages. In fact they are entire reason your company exists.. to make a profit right?
Here is a real simple business model to pass on to your CEO. It's so simple even your cleaner will understand it. It goes like this:
Step 1. Find out what your customers want.
Step 2. GIVE IT TO THEM !!!!!!!!!
Step 3. Make more profits!
I know what you’re thinking Lenovo…. This guy’s a god **bleep** genius!
Let me apply this simple model to your specific business. People from Lenovo, look at the pole in the blog on this thread.
At time of writing this approx 50% of people think the fn and cntrl keys should be swapped. This means you are cutting yourself off from 50% of your market.
Remember also, I told all my friend and family, collegues co-workers to completely avoid using your machines. Notice how annoyed people are when they receive a product that they perceive doesn’t do the job they set out to do.
Notice how when they are unhappy they tell EVERYONE not to purchase your product, whilst the people who are happy just keep quiet?
My god what a concept.. unhappy customers shouting loudly and costing you profits... where did this guy come from?
Now Mr CEO... after you’ve finished your really important meetings, business lunches and driving around feeling important… drop downstairs to the various departments and issue the following instructions to your employees (following the model above)
1. Make the BIOS so you can swap the keys in harware.
2. Make the physical keys the same size so they can be swapped.
Hey presto! You’ve now invented a machine that suits ALL your customers thus increasing your profits instantly. God **bleep** genius… and all this excellent advise for free!
PS. Don’t forget to have lots of endless meetings, board room discussions including time-consuming conversations by the water fountain. Oh and circulate memo’s and pointless pieces of papers for everyone to fill in… that way you can justify everybody's over inflated wage-packets and marketing budget and make those pen pushers feel like they earnt there fat pay cheques.