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kalifstorch
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[BIOS Bug] Enabling Fn/Ctrl swap breaks [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Up]

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Hello all!

 

I'm very used to the standard keyboard layout, where the ctrl key is on the very left. Therefore I enabled the Swap Fn/Ctrl key option in the BIOS of my Lenovo Edge 11 AMD (2545A12, Bios 1.08).

 

Unfortunately this has the effect, that a very specific key combination is no longer working: Ctrl+Alt+Up

 

Ctrl-Alt-Down/Left/Right keep working as ususal. The problem does not happen with disabled key swap option.

This clearly seems to be a bug to me. Any hints on how to receive a fix?

 

Thanks & Regards

- Ben

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Re: [BIOS Bug] Problem after enabling Fn/Ctrl swap: Ctrl-Alt-Up no longer working

hey kalifstorch,

curious to know the ctrl-alt-up combo, what does that do ?

Anyway, have you tried doing an update on your system to check if your bios is updated to the latest version?





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Re: [BIOS Bug] Problem after enabling Fn/Ctrl swap: Ctrl-Alt-Up no longer working

Hello Serge1410! Yes - BIOS is already the latest. The named key combination is i.e. used to change the current Desktop under Linux or to Shift block within a Software Developer IDE. Curiously The left/right/down combinations all do work, only the up combination stops working after enabling the Fn/Ctrl Swap.
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Re: [BIOS Bug] Problem after enabling Fn/Ctrl swap: Ctrl-Alt-Up no longer working

if this is happening on a linux-based OS, then I would suggest posting this in the linux thread.






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Re: [BIOS Bug] Problem after enabling Fn/Ctrl swap: Ctrl-Alt-Up no longer working

Serge1410,

 

I've moved the thread to here for you.

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kalifstorch
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Re: [BIOS Bug] Enabling Fn/Ctrl swap breaks [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Up]

I doubt this is a software/Linux problem. Same effect here under Fedora 15/Gnome: There this key combination is the essential as the desktop is only vertically oriented.

 

Can anybody try to assign this key combination in Windows, enable Fn/Ctrl swap and report if he shares the problem there?

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Re: [BIOS Bug] Enabling Fn/Ctrl swap breaks [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Up]

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Same problem on Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E320

Ubuntu 11.10

Updated Bios to latest: 1.16/1.15 - 15 Dec 2011 (8nuj08uc.iso)

xev is not reporting any key when pressing combo Ctrl+Alt+Up, therefore I also doubt it's an Linux issue.

 

This is very annoying since the lenovo bios generally does not seem to work stable - makes no good impression on me :smileysad:

 

See also (open since 2011-04-13)https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/760148 

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Re: [BIOS Bug] Enabling Fn/Ctrl swap breaks [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Up]

Update: Latest BIOS still DOES NOT SOLVE the issue.

 

Bios: 8nuj09uc

Release date: 01. Apr. 2012

 

Version: 1.17/1.15

 

Shortcut [cntrl]+[alt]+[up/down] does not work as expected where  [cntrl]+[alt]+[left/right] works fine.

 

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johnwayne1986
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Re: [BIOS Bug] Enabling Fn/Ctrl swap breaks [Ctrl]-[Alt]-[Up]

I can confirm that this is not a Linux specific issue. I get the same behaviour in windows. The key kombination Ctrl+Alt+Up does not work properly (Ctrl+Alt+Down/Left/Right works for me). I also swapped LCtrl with Fn via the BIOS. There is again a newer version for the BIOS (1.18/1.16), but its change log does not say, that this issue was resolved. However, I did not try it, since I do not expect any change from it.

 

A way to still use this key combination is as follows:

  1. Hold down Ctrl+Alt
  2. Hold down Up
  3. Release Ctrl+Alt
  4. Release Up

At step 3 (intead of step 2) it recognizes the key combination correctly. I know it is not very nice, because usually you use these key combos with step 3 and 4 swapped, but better than nothing.

 

And again: Exactly the same situation in windows. So could someone move it back to the right topic, please?

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LeCanardfou
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Re: [BIOS Bug] Problem after enabling Fn/Ctrl swap: Ctrl-Alt-Up no longer working

Will this issue be fixed one day? Same thing on an x121e, last bios... It is quite a shame nothing is done in order to address this bug...