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sameronline
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Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

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Hi Forum,

My personal laptop is Lenovo THINKPAD T500 2055, and its main specifications are as follows:

- Intel Core 2 Duo processor T9400 (2.53GHz 1066MHz 6MBL2)
- 8 GB DDR3 SDRAM Memory Module 4 GB (2 x 4 GB) 1066MHz DDR31066/PC38500 DDR3 SDRAM SoDIMM Kingston.
- 2 GB Intel Turbo Memory hard drive cache.
- ATI Mobility Radeon 3650 with 256MB.
- 160 GB Hard Disk Drive, 7200rpm.
- Windows 7 Ultimate with the latest Service Pack (x64).

My problem precisely and concisely is that I am NOT happy nor satisfied with the performance of my laptop at all, and I need your assitance and advices to boost my laptop's performance.

 

I feel that my laptop is not fast enough especially when I run the virtual machine (VM) and do some programming work. I am not satisfied nor happy at all with the application load time nor the process response time.

 

BTW, there's no viruses or malicious software that are affecting my laptop or its memory.

Therefore, I want to improve the performance of my laptop and increase its speed, and I do have some questions:

 

Q1) Upgrading to Solid-State Drive (SSD):

 

a. Will SSD really make a great noticible difference in my laptop's performance?


b. What is the best SSD brand or model do you recommend for my laptop?


c. Are there any issues or problems with the SSD and T500?

 

 

Q2) Upgrading the CPU:


a. What is the fastest and the most powerful CPU model that is compatible with my laptop specifications?


b. Will the new CPU make a significant noticible difference in my laptop's performance?


c. Are there any issues or problems might occur if I upgraded the CPU?

 

 

Q3) Which one do you think has really more significant impact on the laptop's performance: CPU or SSD ? In other words, If I can afford to upgrade only one of them, Which one do you recommend me to upgrade: the CPU or SSD?

 

 

Q4) Are there any other suggestions or recommendations you would like to give me please in order to improve the performance of my laptop?

 


Thanks for your consideration of my request, and I very much look forward to hearing from you at your earliest convenience !

 

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radiskull
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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading? Please Help !

I think as far as the drive goes the rule of thumb is lack of capacity can bog system performance. So you'd probably see a slightlyimproved performance. The CPU I think the fastest in the p series is 2.3 ghz. I recently bought a T9600 which is 2.8. I am not officially recommend the t series because that CPU requires a little bit of extra juice and I haven't swapped it out yet. There is a T9900 which is 3 ghz but I have read reports of that killing mobistar
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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading? Please Help !

are you consistently hitting 100% performance on the CPU?

The T500 can be upgraded to T9900 CPU, but you would gain maybe 10 to 15% of performance with this upgrade.

SSD is obviously a good choice, and maybe something you should consider as the first choice, since you can transfer over the SSD to the new laptop in the future, whereas the CPU you can't.

Crucial M4 and intel SSD are all good candidate, some people say the Samsung SSD is also good.

But given that you feel that the laptop's performance is inadequate, then it is probably a good idea to think about upgrading your laptop to something more modern and sell the one you got right now.
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billbolton
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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?


sameronline wrote:

Q1) Upgrading to Solid-State Drive (SSD):

 

a. Will SSD really make a great noticible difference in my laptop's performance?


b. What is the best SSD brand or model do you recommend for my laptop?


c. Are there any issues or problems with the SSD and T500?

 


A. You will very definitely notice the difference.

 

B, Beats me which one is best (there are hundreds of thousand of post across the internet on that topic) but I am using an Intel 320 Series 160GB drive in a T400 and have been very satisfied with the performance.

 

C. No

 

If you install an SSD, remove the Intel Turbo cache, it was never really worth the trouble in the first place..... and is quite useless when you are running an SSD.

 

Replacing the CPU is up to you, but I wouldn't even think about it until you understand the impact of installing an SSD.

 

Cheers,

 

Bill

 

 

 


 

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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

I just got several of these systems that originally shipped with SSD and T9900 cpu. I must say I'm very impressed...   not that the specs of your system look slow, they are quite good too, but the T9900 really screams with an SSD drive.

 

On one hand I'd say go with the upgrade, but you might be better to do what I did and get a complete system because these chips aren't cheap. 

ThinkPad W-510 i7-820QM(1.73-3.06GHz) Quad Core... ThinkPad T500, T9900, 8gb SSD...FrankNpad T-60p/61p (X9000 2.8ghz) 8gb SSD ips FlexView...ThinkPad T-61p (T9300 2.5ghz) 8gb ram...Thinkpad X-61 Tablet 4gb ram...ThinkPad A-31 (1.9ghz P4 1.5gb ram)
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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

Re Questions about SSD & RAM Upgrading:

 

I had a Toshiba Tecra A6 Laptop with 512MB RAM.

I bumped it up to 4GB & this almost doubled its speed for everyday work & Photoshop CS6.

 

Later I took out the original 5,400rpm 60GB HD & I replaced it with a Seagate Quantus 750GB HYBRID(7,200rpm & high amount of RAM-I can't remember exactly, U cud look it up online).

I was very surprised when l turned it on & it booted up in 1/3 of the time.

 

I did not run Software Benchmarking to verify this from a Scientific Principle but I did run many of the same File Crunching in Photoshop CS6 the same way as previously & the speed more than doubled compared to before.

 

The Seagate Quantus 750GB HYBRID was not expensive & seemed to me to be a very good compromise.

 

The end result is that the RAM & HDD Hybrid upgrade Quadrupled(X4) the speed of the Laptop for both general use & fairly heavy Photoshop use.

I had previously upgraded several Desktops with increased RAM(twice or 4 times the original RAM) & they ran app twice as fast afterwards. I think there is not a full understanding of the relationship of RAM to CPU to File Crunching  by people in general. I do not understand it properly myself but in every case the cheapest method for getting 'most Bang for your Buck' was to 'Max Out' the amount of Installed RAM.

 

There may be an additional case for using a SSD: Because no Standard SATA HDD needs to be 'woken up' & disks need to turn etc it takes a lot of power as well as being so much slower. An SSD should run 1/8th or 1/10th of the the power. Additionally this would effect the CPU heat so that would need to be looked at separately(would it put less strain on the CPU & thereby reduce it's heat? Very Handy if so with a Laptop).

 

This was better than I had hoped.

Toshiba Tecra A6 now running Win XP Pro, now with 4GB RAM & Seagate Momentus 750GB HYBRID HDD.

 

HEY GUYS: I'm still trying to find out what the fastest CPU for the Thinkpad T500 is. I know it can take a T9900 but can it take any of the more recent i3 or i5 CPU's?

 

Also, is the RAM limit really 8GB RAM or 16GB as some are claiming? Some Ram installations show 4 slots of RAM instead of 2. Does this mean more than 8GB or is the Chipset or some other Hardware limitation preventing more than 8GB being used?

 

Ciao, Con

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ColonelONeill
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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

@WidgetdMan,

The T500 will only take up to a T9900; it won't take any of the Core i-series CPUs.

AFAIK, the maximum for a T500 is 2x4GB of RAM.
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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

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In general, more memory gives you the most improvement for the money, followed by a faster disk, followed by faster CPU. The important words there are "in general". If you are calculating prime numbers, only a faster CPU will help. If you are running photoshop, you never can have too much memory. If you are running visual studio with lots of small modules, only a faster disk will have a big impact.  BTW, the 8GB limit (2X4) listed above is correct.  The T500 will not recognize 8gb modules.

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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

Ta 4 that.
What about d Intel Quad core Q Model?
Enjoyed your post.
Does the Thinkpad T500 have only 2 slots & not 4?
Ciao, Con

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Re: Detailed Questions on Radical Upgrading a T500?

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WidgetdMan wrote:
Ta 4 that.
What about d Intel Quad core Q Model?
Enjoyed your post.
Does the Thinkpad T500 have only 2 slots & not 4?
Ciao, Con


 

From top of my mind your T500 can use socket-P Penryn CPU's only, so any of these CPU's should work:

 

  • P8400
  • P8600
  • P8700
  • P8800
  • T9400
  • T9550
  • T9600
  • T9800
  • T9900
  • P9500
  • P9600
  • P9700

I was of the opinion there were no quad Penryn's (I might get corrected about this)

 

Regarding RAM there are only 2 slots available (under the palmrest)

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A31/i1600/G40/R50p/R61i/S30/2*T22/4*T4x/11*T6x/4*T400/6*T5x0/3*W5x0/W700/3*X2x/4*X3x/3*X4x/5*X6x/3*X6xT/7*X2xx/2*X200T/4*X30x/Z60m/Z61m/Z61p/Z61t



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