T510: Why NVS3100 instead of ATI 5650 discreate graphics?

[fishbone]

I had several laptops die on me over the years because of quality issues with ATI gfx. I am VERY happy to have a less power consuming NV chip. Then again I don't play games on my T series.

[Sidan77]

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fishbone wrote:

I had several laptops die on me over the years because of quality issues with ATI gfx. I am VERY happy to have a less power consuming NV chip. Then again I don't play games on my T series.

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I probably wouldn't use it for gaming, I simply like to work fast . But it´s nice to have the possibility and  it feels wrong to downgrade the gfx performance when releasing a new model, especially since there are a lot faster gfx cards with similar power consumption available.

But ok, it's the best explanation so far. If there has been stability and quality issues with ATI there is at least some reason for why Lenovo (and also HP with the new Elitebook series) have chosen to switch over to the NVS series.

I'm not sure if it convinces me though...

[joer80]

Even if you dont play games, not having a decent dedicated gpu hurts your resale value..

[phuongdnguyen]

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joer80 wrote:

Even if you dont play games, not having a decent dedicated gpu hurts your resale value..

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I think resale value is the last thing on business user's mind when picking laptop.

[Mutnat]

Actually even as a personal user, I've never thought about resale value when buying my systems.  Usually when I'm done with them (2-3 years after purchase), they're pretty much worthless anyway.  By then the entry-level $500-700 laptops are just as powerful as the one I'm done with, so why would anybody buy mine? 

[joer80]

Maybe true with CPU, but not with gpus... They are good for longer...  If you have an app that is GPU bound and not CPU bound in 2008, it may be 2012 before the company upgrades the GPU.  And sometimes, they include less powerful parts, like this one. (NVS3100)

[toby]

lenovo does not have its priorities straight. the new sony z series has a quardo fx880m class card in a 13 inch form factor, and lenovo place such an abysmal chip as the 64bit nvs3100 into the t410 anf t510.

the only way out of this is if lenovo would come up with a w410 with an fx880m GPU. or comparable ATI, I don't care as long as it's above 170 GFLOPS and supporting openCL.

new workstation models have been announced by lenovo to appear february 23. nothing has happen. Lenovo bankrupt?

lenovo looses more and more of its credibility of engineering leadership in laptops. as a lenovo engineer, I would be pissed at marketing taking over product descicions instead of basing product decisions on engineering.