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jchammerpants
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Stylus problem / ICS hover feature causing phantom inking when writing or drawing.

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Hello.
 
Campanella opened a related thread, which was marked as solved.  But the subsequent comments indicate that the real issue is not yet addressed.
 
ICS has introduced a new "hover" feature when using the stylus, by which links or items below the tip of the stylus are highlighted before the stylus actually touches/selects/clicks there.  It's similar to seeing a link on a web page change or show underline when hovering the mouse over it, before clicking.
 
Mr.Peter explained and provided details as to how this is a new ICS feature-- thank you, Mr.Peter.  I like this feature for what it was intended to do.
 
But, several of us are now realizing a significant problem this hover seems to be introducing:  When attempting to draw or record handwritten notes, the hover feature (I admit I am assuming it is the cause for this new anomaly) results in separate stylus strokes being connected.
 
Said another way, when I write a letter, then lift the stylus, then set it down to write the next letter, something is now causing the first and second letter to be connected with a straight ink from the point where I raised my stylus to where I set it back down.
 
All the letters are being connected to the prior and next letters at their initial and terminal ink points.  So separate words are being connected, and the connecting lines run through and between the letters and words-- it becomes an unreadable mess!
 
If I restart my TPT, the problem seems to go away for a while.  But once it starts, I have to restart to overcome it.
 
Perhaps this is not due to the hover feature-- but it is a new anomaly for me since the ICS update.
 
So, while the hover feature is appreciated, this new problem deserves attention, as the ability to take hand-written notes was the PRIMARY reason I bought a TPT.
 
Thanks,
JC
 
 
 
EDIT JULY 9: Retitled this thread to better identify the problem. ( Good idea splotz!)
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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

Hello jchammerpants, 

 

Did that hanppen immediatly after ICS update ?

Did you try to remove the pen "lid" for 10 sec. and try if the pen and battery could cause that?

With which apps does it appear ? 

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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

 


splotz wrote:

Hello jchammerpants, 

 

Did that hanppen immediatly after ICS update ?

Did you try to remove the pen "lid" for 10 sec. and try if the pen and battery could cause that?

With which apps does it appear ? 


Thanks for the response.

 

To your question about the timing compared with the ICS update:  

Within a day of installing ICS is the first time I had this issue.  As of last night, I have done the factory reset on my TPT three times since the ICS update last week, trying to figure out if apps I installed were causing this issue.  (I'm also trying to figure out if other apps are causing ICS to be more sluggish, as my ICS experience so far has been mediocre at best.)  Already this morning, the same issue has occurred, on my near-vanilla ICS install.  Again-- this issue is new for me since ICS, and from reading the other Stylus Problem thread below, I think a few others are having identical issues.

 

To your question about removing the pen lid:  Yes, and I have also replaced the battery in the last week.  This does not fix my issue, once it starts.  The problem does not happen every single time I try to write notes, but once it happens I have to reboot to fix it.  And once it happens in one app, it happens in all such apps until reboot (detailed below).

 

Which apps:

I first noticed it using the Mazec7 ink-to-text app.  A day or so later, I noticed it in FreeNotes, my preferred note-taking software.  So, I immediately opened up Quill, and had the same issue, until I rebooted.

 

 

Thanks again-- hope this detail helps explain the problem.

JC

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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

Got exactly the same issue here, but I dont have to reboot to stop this hovering effect. It's pretty annoying especially in ezpdf oder lecturenotes - because after taking effect the pressure sensitive is gone and the line jumps from one word to another, after I remove the pen from the display and put it on the display again...
But for me it's enough to remove the pen's battery for 5 sec. and to push the power button twice to bring the tab into and out of standby mode
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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.


-Neos- wrote:
But for me it's enough to remove the pen's battery for 5 sec. and to push the power button twice to bring the tab into and out of standby mode

Thanks-- I will try cycling standby next time as well.

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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

Yes as this new feature may be a huge issue instead of being helpful, opening a new thread will not change anything.

Lenovo (I believe) can not address this without enough people going to Google about this and ask for a fix/turn off option. Lenovo has nothing to do with this feature and can not fix it themselves.

I'm not saying a Dev with Root on this forum couldn't possibly find a fix for us... :smileywink:
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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.


MrPeter1985 wrote:
Yes as this new feature may be a huge issue instead of being helpful, opening a new thread will not change anything.

Lenovo (I believe) can not address this without enough people going to Google about this and ask for a fix/turn off option. Lenovo has nothing to do with this feature and can not fix it themselves.

I'm not saying a Dev with Root on this forum couldn't possibly find a fix for us... :smileywink:

Respectfully, as I do appreciate your inputs, the first thread was opened and closed seemingly around the "hover over links" part of the issue.  Yes, you correctly highlighted that feature in ICS.

 

But if you revisit the comments in that thread, you will see others pointing out the related problem with inking, that was not addressed, and is not "solved."

 

And I don't think we can automatically pin the fault on Google and say that Lenovo should not have to consider this issue.  If enough TPT owners see this issue, then I would hope Lenovo will engage us with to determine the root cause:  Is it just something we have to live with from ICS, or is it rooted not in ICS but in the hardware/software implementations selected by Lenovo and N-Trig now setting atop ICS.  If the TPT is the only active digitizer tablet having this problem, then it may not be accurate to just blame it on Google and say Lenovo isn't responsible.

 

Perhaps this issue is affecting only a very small set of TPT owners and won't warrant consideration.  But, I hope this thread will capture if other users are having similar issues.

 

I do appreciate your inputs.  

 

Thanks,

JC

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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

Well said, jchammerpants. Thank you.
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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

Again, What you (and others) are calling an issue, Google (and others) call it a feature.

Complaining here to Lenovo will not fix it. You guys wanted ICS and this is a part of ICS. You can always go back to HC.

You need to bring complaints about this NEW ICS feature to Google and see what they say. Maybe recommend to them they need to add a off option. I too dislike it and can not do anything about it yet either.

Have you done a Google search to see if others dislike this issue too? Maybe there is a facebook page to join and what not.

And yes I agree that Lenovo could go in and disable it, but what about those that use it. So an option to disable it would have to be coded.

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Re: Stylus problem NOT solved. Explained in more detail.

I retitled the thread, per a good suggestion from Splotz.