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erik
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android versus windows 8

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having used the thinkpad tablet for a few months, i find android to be a good media consuption OS but not as productive as what windows might offer me personally.   i find myself missing full-size apps like office, photoshop, sketchbook pro, and so on.   yes, there are android alternatives but i'm a windows user and dislike scaled-down software.

 

so, i'm curious.   how would current tablet users compare android with windows 8?   would windows make you more productive?   will the vast amount of android apps currently available outweigh any windows advantage?   do you use any apps that you don't think will work as well in windows, be ported, or a similar version be available?

 

discuss. :smileywink:

 

 

 

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Re: android versus windows 8

Personally, I think it's a little too early to tell.  Will Metro be an environment on Windows 8 tablet that is as productive as the Windows desktop is in Windows 7?  Or if it will be more like your view of Android where it is only good as a consumption OS?  Will the software vendors make full-featured products for metro?  Or will they be scaled-down versions?  It seems that metro is still evolving at Redmond as we speak so who knows what it will end up being like later this year.  And I haven't heard from adobe, etc about what their plans are.

 

Personally, what I'm most excited about is the possibility of finally consolidating into a single device.  I could have my Win8 tablet that I take everywhere.  When I need to do serious work, I can put it into a dock which is connected to keyboard/mouse/monitor.  No synching needed, so I always have whatever files I need with me.  And I don't have to deal with maintaining 2 different devices and operating systems, each with their own quirks.  Do you think that's realistic, or just a pipe-dream on my part?

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Re: android versus windows 8

metro has been an odd one for me.   i've only used windows 8 server and even it installs with metro by default.   trying to manage a server with an interface designed for touch input is awkward at best.

 

in a tablet environment i could see the merit.   i too share that dream (pipe or reality... not sure yet) of running full-size apps alongside smaller utilities to meld my travel devices into one.   the thinkpad tablet is for now just a toy to me and must be supplemented by the X220 to get actual work done.   a single device as you've described would be outstanding.

 

the likelihood of that single device happening seems to revolve around how win 8 pans out in both hardware capability and software compatibility.   i'm not expecting a tablet-sized mobile workstation but would love to see something a device where i could actually work.

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Well you will have your Google fans. I do like Office and other Windows based programs on Windows. But for android its all Google baybee.

Google Docs works well for me. Sketchbook Pro works great for me. Built in Gtalk and Gmail is great. As well as Gvoice. Picasa also works pretty well.

So if Win Tablets get too Desktoppy then it would just get a bit slow IMO. Just like a PC if its not good enough then it just can't handle those Windows programs. Most low end PC's that are out now can't even handle the new Office well let alone Photoshop.

Like someotheguy said, It is a bit too early to tell right now.

My 2 cents.

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Re: android versus windows 8


erik wrote:

metro has been an odd one for me.   i've only used windows 8 server and even it installs with metro by default.   trying to manage a server with an interface designed for touch input is awkward at best.



Hi, erik. 

 

Regarding Windows 8 Server (and Windows 8 Consumer Preview) see the instructions at Group Policy Central by Microsoft MVP Alan Burchill, The must have Windows 8 Start Menu Group Policy Settings.

As Alan reports, "The “Do not show the Start Menu when the user logs in” policy allows you to boot the OS into the more familiar desktop and not the Metro start menu."

The setting is located at User Configuration > Policies > Administrative Templates > Start Menu and Taskbar.

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Re: android versus windows 8

corrine - thanks... yeah, metro was removed immediately using that very method.   my complaint is that metro shouldn't be the default in a server environment.   it's counterintuitive for a server deployment.   the option should be to turn it on, not off.

 

 

peter - yeah, i get the whole "google" integration.   the question is whether their apps and OS make a person more or less productive than what a windows-based environment would offer.   for me google offers very little outside of search.   i need applications, not applets; a supercomputer, not a super-big calculator.   if a tablet can't handle that then it will remain a supplemental device for many and never become a primary.   win 8 might not change that game either though and that's what i'm pushing for discussion.

 

regarding sketchbook pro, this works far better on my X61T than it does the TPT thanks to having a better pen interface and smaller, more accurate stylus nib.   despite this, i sketch on paper far more often.   in my opinion pencil and ink can't be beat for concept drawings.   drawing on glass just isn't the same.   just my take.

 

 

anyway, carry on...

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