05-12-2012 09:45 PM
Got a C20 loaded with 2x Xeon X5667. currently have 2x nvs 450 cards in there which is great for work, but i'm looking to load a card in there that's better designed for gamin. any suggestions as to what would actually fit in the tower that could run the latest games? thanks for your time!
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05-13-2012 08:10 AM
welcome to the forum!
the C20 has a narrow chassis and will limit your choices to cards with PCI power sockets at the back. cards with power sockets on the side won't fit without extensive modification to both the card itself and the chassis. the C20 was designed 100% as a compact workstation with no provisions for gaming hardware.
since this is a workstation forum, you'll probably have better luck on a gaming forum requesting feedback on cards with power sockets at the back (ie: geforce GTX 560 Ti, 570 HD, etc.) and whether the X5667 will have enough speed for the games you want to play (and be prepared for people to say 'no').
you might also consider a dedicated gaming PC or a standalone unit like an xbox, wii, or playstation so you don't risk your work system by installing gaming hardware (and installing gaming card drivers will prove risky ).
05-13-2012 05:55 PM
thank you for the detailed response Erik. yes i noticed the chasis was quite small, will figure out a way to work that in. thank you for the suggestions and insight!
05-13-2012 06:56 PM
i don't recommend doing this but this thread shows what i went through to get a standard GTX 570 in my C20. full disclosure: i'm not a gamer by any means and don't own any games. i did this to speed up autodesk inventor and autocad 2012 since they're both direct-x based rather than openGL. this is a temporary workaround until the quadro line gets updated to kepler architecture. stability just isn't the same even after customizing the 570 BIOS to run at the more stable quadro 5000 clocks.
if i had to do it over again i'd just get a card with rear-mount power connectors. i void warranties professionally so none of this stuff bothers me. for everyone else, i recommend against it.
besides, you'll end up installing geforce drivers and losing stability in your quadro cards. unless you're adept at troubleshooting graphics bugs and tweaking .ini files for reliability, the geforce drivers aren't good to have in a work system—especially if your paycheck depends on it.
05-14-2012 07:35 PM
great work on modding your C20 and getting a 570/580 in there. i dont think i have the skills to pull off a mod like that. i used to trade on this machine, but am no longer doing so. so i have an expensive piece of equipment sitting there that i figure should be able to play some decent games. do you recommend getting a single slot gpu and removing both nvs cards? i honsetly dont want this thing to go to waste, and i don't know how easy it would be to sell this equipment. thanks for the advice, feel free to send a pm.
05-15-2012 03:16 AM
if an X5667 and GTX 570 would have enough power to play the games you intend to play then the C20 would probably work. but, most gaming PCs have much faster clock speeds than what the X5667 offers and there's no way to overclock the C20. having dual X5667s won't be of any benefit, either. even if you sold one of the X5667s and both NVS 450s, you'd still be limited in GPU choices due to the chassis design.
you might consider selling the C20 while the components are still worth something then putting the funds toward a gaming PC or console. you'd probably break even or come out ahead.
05-15-2012 11:13 AM
The NVS 450's are not going to help you with gaming...they're dual GPU cards aimed at getting a large number of video heads, but it's all 2D stuff.
It's really the form factor that's limiting you here. The board can support a decent gaming system (overclocking aside), but the fact that the graphics are going to require rear facing power connectors to fit will be the real problem. This flexibility is where the D20 shines.
You can always put Quadro cards in there and get decent gaming performance, but they're pretty expensive compared to their Geforce counterparts. I've got dual Q5000s (or dual Q6000's...can't remember...lol) in my home system in SLI. Seems to do pretty darn well with just about anything I throw at it, but I'm by no means a big time gamer.
05-18-2012 12:02 PM
i've actually tried to load d3 on the machine with updated drivers on the nvs450, completely understand that it's a workstation card. the game barely runs on low settings. are the quadros really going to get me any significant boost and worth investing in?
05-21-2012 10:32 AM
Is d3 a game? Sorry, not much of a gamer.
The Quadro line will offer significant improvement over the NVS450. Quite simply, NVS line is for 2D, while the quadro line is for 3D.