New W520 BIOS 1.37 has been posted: [ Edited ]

[christopherlang]

Hi. I don't disagree :-)... But I am probably not that serious about having my displays calibrated either (my level of photography interest at this point is just in getting one of the 3D cameras on the Nvidia site and maybe trying photography as a hobby again). I also mentioned if it meets his specs, but you are correct about the pro model being superior. I wanted one app for calibrating the laptop display and the external one. This did not work for me using the pro model and its software  (it did not support the internal calibrator, it would not detect it) and I also had conflicts between the profiling software (with the software for calibrating the laptop display). So easiest for me was this setup. I otherwise would have used the Pro model. I looked at dispcal gui and probably could have used it but did not try. Maybe another time and right now what I have to my eyes looks pretty good between the two displays (I also just wanted my displays to have as similar a color appearance as possible, both are LED LCDs too, and the displays both look pretty close to each other now, and I'm happy for the time being with this setup :-)). Cheers

 --Sorry to be so long winded as well, lol. Maybe I'll save someone some time in the future :-)

PS The OP also said this: 'but I'd hate to have to run two color profile softwares '.  Why did you post your message in this thread instead of the original thread? PS You may wish to look at the original thread again too, the OP wanted something easy as a solution to his problem.

[raksan]

Hi all, After read all these posts I still confuse. Is 1600mhz RAM still work (but without official support) in these machine after bios 1.37? Or it's just work at 1300mhz? or it won't work at all. My machine still running bios .36 and haven't any problem. Thanks,

[fldevs]

I am running 1.37 with 8gb of factory ram and 8gb of Corsair Vengeance PC12800 (1600mhz).  All together the 16gb runs at 1300mhz and has been stable without issue.

[raksan]

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fldevs wrote:

I am running 1.37 with 8gb of factory ram and 8gb of Corsair Vengeance PC12800 (1600mhz).  All together the 16gb runs at 1300mhz and has been stable without issue.

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Thanks fldevs, so it runs but at the speed limit to 1300mhz since you have the other two. It'd be much informative if you could also run only the 1600mhz ones just to verify.

[fldevs]

I'll test that at some point, hopefully this weekend or next week when the new ssd arrives.  I would try quicker but things are absolutely nuts right now.

[raksan]

Yeah, please take your time. I just want to be sure and future proof before I switch to those rams, but not in anytime soon. Congrats on your upgrade to SSD :-)

[Chatbox]

On the topic of "W520 never supported 1600MHz" memory:

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=PD015362

Lesson learnt: Having a memory controller "Up to 1600MHz" and "The use of 1333 MHz SO DIMM memory is recommended"  Basically means "forget 1600MHz, we only support 1333MHz" in Lenovo's book.    Talk about playing with words...Yes, you still get a memory controller of up to 1600MHz...we give you that, but we just don't support it, nor will we guarantee its functionality.

EVIL!

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[ThorsHammer]

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Chatbox wrote:

On the topic of "W520 never supported 1600MHz" memory:

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=PD015362

Lesson learnt: Having a memory controller "Up to 1600MHz" and "The use of 1333 MHz SO DIMM memory is recommended"  Basically means "forget 1600MHz, we only support 1333MHz" in Lenovo's book.    Talk about playing with words...Yes, you still get a memory controller of up to 1600MHz...we give you that, but we just don't support it, nor will we guarantee its functionality.

EVIL!

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I think this was being debated in a different thread.  The 1600MHz memory used to work in the W520 until the latest BIOS.  No notice in the BIOS readme was given for the removal of the capability. 

When this came up, one of the Lenovo employees here said (and I am paraphrasing), that Lenovo isn't obligated to provide such notice in a README for the BIOS, for something that isn't supported.  I think that floored quite a few people. 

Another nail.

[harrisb]

You guys never cease to amaze me with all of the minutia. The memory specification for the W520 included PC-8500 1333MHz memory as well as PC-10600 1333MHz memory. The recommendation was to use the PC-10600 memory


There was never a reference to any other memory speed for support.

The fact that BIOS 1.37 formally limited the speed which is the way that it should have been from the product launch is history. I'm not sure why you all keep harping on this point. However, you can always go back to BIOS 1.36 if this floats your boat.

[ThorsHammer]

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harrisb wrote:
You guys never cease to amaze me with all of the minutia. The memory specification for the W520 included PC-8500 1333MHz memory as well as PC-10600 1333MHz memory. The recommendation was to use the PC-10600 memory


There was never a reference to any other memory speed for support.

The fact that BIOS 1.37 formally limited the speed which is the way that it should have been from the product launch. I'm not sure why you all keep harping on this point. However, you can always go back to BIOS 1.36 if this floats your boat.

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It isn't minutia.

So you really think an owner of the W520 with "Intel® Core i7 processor i7-2720QM(2.20GHz) with quad-core DDR3 memory controller (up to 1600MHz), Intel Turbo Boost 2.0 (3.30GHz), Hyper-Threading technology; 6MB Cache" that purchased http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820233265 should be happy with how it was handled and don't understand how they could get upset?  I don't think they think it's a trifling matter.

I don't really give a **bleep** personally.  But the communication over this and the lack of customer empathy is mind boggling. It's disturbing to see this from current and former Lenovo employees. I guess I really should not be surprised at this juncture.

If would be helpful if Lenovo didn't publish ambiguous specifications. I took the string directly from http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/detail.page?DocID=PD015362