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webo
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Registered: ‎04-08-2012
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Re: W530 Release Date

I think it makes some sense.  I was looking for a 4-bay ESATA enclosure until I learned that the ESATA on the motherboard needed to support port-multiplication for all 4 drives to show up.  Most motherboards do not do port-multiplication so it rendered it useless for me.

 

USB 3.0 exceeds the bandwidth capabilities of ESATA and you don't have to worry about port-multiplication.  ESATA would be a nice option to still have but I see why they removed it.

Thinkpad W530: i7-3720QM, K1000M, FHD Screen, 16 GB PC12800, 240GB OCZ Vertex 3 SSD
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harrisb
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Registered: ‎04-20-2008
Location: Cary, NC
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Re: W530 Release Date

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Regardless, the W520 could sustain two eSata drives (one on the main system, the other through the docking station). People are still encountering significant incompatibilities with external drives (for bootable systems) with USB 3.0. The eSata connections have worked well for me in those situations. If you need 4 drive capability, you need to obtain an expresscard solution.

W520, i7-2820QM, BIOS 1.42, 1920x1080 FHD, 32 GB RAM, 2000M NVIDIA GPU, Samsung 840 Pro 480GB SSD, Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm HDD, WD 2TB USB 3.0, eSata Plextor PX-LB950UE BluRay

W520, i7-2760QM, BIOS 1.42 1920x1080 FHD, 32 GB RAM, 1000M NVIDIA GPU, Crucial M500 480GB mSata SSD, Hitachi 500GB HDD, WD 2TB USB 3.0
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ThorsHammer
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Re: W530 Release Date

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webo wrote:

USB 3.0 exceeds the bandwidth capabilities of ESATA and you don't have to worry about port-multiplication.  ESATA would be a nice option to still have but I see why they removed it.


In theory.

 

In practice, the eSATAp cable I have provides higher throughput than any USB 3.0 device and enclosure I've tried.  That and HarrisB indicates, booting from a drive not in an enclosure across eSATAp rocks. Easy fast access to data, too.

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unit88888888
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Registered: ‎08-24-2010
Location: New york
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Re: W530 Release Date

well it doesnt matter if it is chiclet keyboard or not, the main question is whether this new keyboard is user field replacable or whether this keyboard is not user replacable.

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Djembe
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Location: USA
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The keyboard is very easy to remove and replace.
Thinkpad W530, i7-3720QM, 1920x1080 screen, 32GB RAM, dual SSDs (Samsung 830, Crucial M4 mSATA), Quadro K2000M, 9-cell battery, DVD burner, backlit keyboard, Bluetooth, Intel 6300 wireless card
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eecon
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Registered: ‎02-13-2008
Location: West Coast, USA
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Re: W530 Release Date

@Djembe ..... what kind of 3DMark06 benchmark score is your new W530 with the K2000M producing @ the test's default 1280x1024 resolution?

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Two (I used to have Five) - T61p 15.4" WS T9300 2.5Ghz units, August 08/08 Builds with FX570M Nvidia Graphics; ... One W520 i7-2860QM w/2000M Nvidia Graphics (most recent acquisition and stupidly fast); .... One - T42 4:3 15" Flexview 1.8GHz with ATI Graphics (still perfect for traveling); ... Two - T500 15.4" units both with ATI HD3650 Graphics.
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eecon
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Location: West Coast, USA
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@harrisb ..... FWIW, I don't see any eSATA port(s) listed on the 170W 433835U Series 3 Mini-Dock for the W520/W530 on the Lenovo Specs page:

 

http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/detail.page?&DocID=PD024298

 

Also BTW, what kind of 3DMark06 score is your W520 configuration producing?   I'm debating between a W520 with the eSATA port and the W530 w/o any eSATA port capability except via an express 34 slot card ..... Thanks.

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Two (I used to have Five) - T61p 15.4" WS T9300 2.5Ghz units, August 08/08 Builds with FX570M Nvidia Graphics; ... One W520 i7-2860QM w/2000M Nvidia Graphics (most recent acquisition and stupidly fast); .... One - T42 4:3 15" Flexview 1.8GHz with ATI Graphics (still perfect for traveling); ... Two - T500 15.4" units both with ATI HD3650 Graphics.
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harrisb
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The 4338-35U does NOT have an eSata port and NEITHER does the W530. The docking solution with the eSata port is the 4338-30U. My PCMARK7 score is 4517 based on my current configuration. I've also been using the USB 3.0 port on the W520 with an external WD 2TB My Passport HDD. My suggestion is to evaluate whether the eSata-p port (on the system) is something that is of high value to your needs. You can always add an ExpressCard34 for eSata, but these solutions are usually not powered. The advantage of the USB 3.0 port on the dockling solution is that you can then attach a USB 3.0 hub to the docking station rather than to the base system as your your drive needs change. Alternatively, you can purchase a W520 with the eSata-p and use it with the 4338-35U. The choice is yours. I perferred to keep the eSata-p solution and purchased an additional W520 rather than the W530.

 

YMMV. 

W520, i7-2820QM, BIOS 1.42, 1920x1080 FHD, 32 GB RAM, 2000M NVIDIA GPU, Samsung 840 Pro 480GB SSD, Hitachi 1TB 7200rpm HDD, WD 2TB USB 3.0, eSata Plextor PX-LB950UE BluRay

W520, i7-2760QM, BIOS 1.42 1920x1080 FHD, 32 GB RAM, 1000M NVIDIA GPU, Crucial M500 480GB mSata SSD, Hitachi 500GB HDD, WD 2TB USB 3.0
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Djembe
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3DMark06 score was around 12000.  I don't remember the exact score right now and at the moment, my system is at the depot being repaired (faulty Intel graphics), so I can't re-run it to see.  3DMark 11 scores hovered around 2000.  I've done multiple runs of that benchmark and my highest score was 2057, as I recall.  

Thinkpad W530, i7-3720QM, 1920x1080 screen, 32GB RAM, dual SSDs (Samsung 830, Crucial M4 mSATA), Quadro K2000M, 9-cell battery, DVD burner, backlit keyboard, Bluetooth, Intel 6300 wireless card
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eecon
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Location: West Coast, USA
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Re: W530 Release Date

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@harrisb ..... Thanks for the clarification on the 433830U docking station.  

 

My needs require two eSATA ports per station and I will soon need to also utilize the ExpressCard34 slot for Creative 7.1 audio devices, so it looks like i7-W520/2000M units with 433830U docking stations may be ideal for me when upgrading from my T61p units (currently using 2-port ExpressCards now and foregoing the Creative audio devices)  ...... the W520s would still be used as desktop replacements with external monitors, KBs and mice and they would never travel.  I don't really see any need for USB 3.0 in my future for at least 4 or 5 years.

 

As a way to compare Benchmark apples with apples, is there any chance you may find a few minutes to run Futuremark's older 3DMark06 on your W520 i7-2820QM with the Nvidia 2000M (using the default settings of 3DMark06)?

 

Again, many thanks for your help.

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Two (I used to have Five) - T61p 15.4" WS T9300 2.5Ghz units, August 08/08 Builds with FX570M Nvidia Graphics; ... One W520 i7-2860QM w/2000M Nvidia Graphics (most recent acquisition and stupidly fast); .... One - T42 4:3 15" Flexview 1.8GHz with ATI Graphics (still perfect for traveling); ... Two - T500 15.4" units both with ATI HD3650 Graphics.