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hp79
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X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks

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I noticed that there are white powdery marks when I first receive my tablet. I thought it was something from the factory so I didn't pay much attention and just cleaned it good.

Today I took my X230T in laptop mode (lid closed), then put it in a 13.3 inch sleeve case, then put it in my backpack's laptop compartment, then put it in the car, then came back the same way to home. About 1 hour drive each way, and less than 3 minutes of walking time with X230T inside the backpack. I see there are white powdery marks again, and now I know it's from the keyboard tray scrubbing against the screen edges near the bezel. Anyone else have this happening?

[IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/n8f1t.jpg[/IMG]

 

[IMG]http://i48.tinypic.com/2eouwr7.jpg[/IMG]



Since it's not the actual screen getting rubbed, and I also have a screen protector so it may not matter that much, but it is an annoyance. I think the keyboard is raised out too much from the body, especially the upper left and upper right corner of the keyboard assembly.

Second picture shows how ugly the dummy fingerprint reader is. I had no clue about the dummy parts when I was ordering.

The white powder stuff comes off with a cloth, but I'm sure after a month it's going to be permanent.

 

 

 

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Re: X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks

The X230T keyboard is customer replaceable, so I would try removing it and reseating it to make sure it's snapped in properly.  Let us know if this helps.

 

Instructions for removal are in the user guide:

 

http://download.lenovo.com/ibmdl/pub/pc/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/x230_tablet_x230i_tablet_user_guide_en.pd...

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hp79
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Re: X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks

I have resetted the keyboard while installing msata ssd, and it looks like it's designed that way. There's nothing that is raising the keyboard higher than it's supposed to. Right now, there are two white spots on my screen, again.
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ttran
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Re: X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks

the top of the keyboard on the x230t I returned look like yours too, I was very curious also (why it seem tilt up like that). If you look careful, the screen is not even at all, it all tilt on the 4 corners, there are even hums (uneven) on the middle bottom of the screen too
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Yeah, that's why I placed a screen protector on mine, and also going to keep some kind of cloth between the screen and keyboard.

Middle bottom of the screen, you mean this where it look like it's rippled?


I started a new thread about this couple days ago, but others seem to have similar unevenness and consider it normal, which is sad and looks cheap.

I'm gonna try one more, and then decide.
There's another Barnes and Noble sale going on, which I got a second X230T for $1043 (i5, W7home, 500GB, 6cell, BT, wifi 6205, fingerprint, webcam, backlit kb, 3 yr warranty).
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ttran
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Re: X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks

Yeah it looks cheap man. I personally recommend you looks toward more about hardware issue instead of cosmetic thing like this. All X230t have some sort of bad cosmetic control, if yours run fast, cool and silent (no high-pitch noise), then keep it. This is very friendly reminder :smileysad: I wish I kept my first one, it was very silent, only got that left rubber hinge super loose.
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del_psi
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Re: X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks

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ttran wrote:
Yeah it looks cheap man. I personally recommend you looks toward more about hardware issue instead of cosmetic thing like this. All X230t have some sort of bad cosmetic control, if yours run fast, cool and silent (no high-pitch noise), then keep it. This is very friendly reminder :smileysad: I wish I kept my first one, it was very silent, only got that left rubber hinge super loose.

The X230t was meant to be a cheap , low quality tablet PC.

 

They atleast made a good cooling system though.

 

Professionals will be using a Fujitsu or HP tablet PC instead due to the quality that HP and Fujitsu tablet PCs have.

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Yeah, the cooling system works pretty well, so it can turbo boost without trottling. I tried Passmark benchmark, and got over 4500 points. From the chart which has 8 samples shows 4244.
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i5-3320M+%40+2.60GHz

My Samsung Series 7 Slate with i5-2467m was throttling very often because it couldn't manage the heat. That's why I'm trying to steer away from Ultrabooks which doesn't have enough room for cooling. Samsung Slate had better pen accuracy, but the screen was lifting out of its place, so that also had build quality problem.

If X230T doesn't work out for me, I'm probably going to get the Fujitsu that everyone is talking about, or just get a less powerful MS Surface Pro when it comes out. I'm sure MS hardware will have great build quality.

 

This keyboard and screen rubbing thing looks pretty stupid. How could they have overseen such obviouse thing like this?

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Do you guys know if Fujitsu tablet PC has the cooling system as good as x230t? If they do+the built quality good as said, then I will purchase one without any doubt. I super hate the high-pitching noise produced by the X230t, it make me sick guys. I rather buy an overpriced, good quality laptop than a cheap one, all the cost of buying, returning, waiting are worth tons of money already. At the end, what is thinkpad made for nowadays anyway? Student, professionals, farmers?

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Re: X230T - Keyboard hitting the screen, leaving marks


del_psi wrote:

The X230t was meant to be a cheap , low quality tablet PC.

 

They atleast made a good cooling system though.

 

Professionals will be using a Fujitsu or HP tablet PC instead due to the quality that HP and Fujitsu tablet PCs have.


You sure seem to love Fujitsu and dislike Lenovo, for someone visiting Lenovo forums.  Without searching, I have come across several recent posts from you using words like "cheap", "shabby", "low quality", etc.

 

I'm surprised because my experience with Lenovo computers has been the best I've had of any computer manufacturer, including Dell, HP, Compaq, Fujitsu, Acer, and others.  They aren't perfect, but no manufactured item is.

 

When the complaint I hear is that a small tab is a little bit loose, but fully functional, it's hard for me to agree with the assessment that these are poorly-engineered, poorly-manufactured machines.

 

-JV474