in ThinkPad: X Series Laptops https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X240-End-Insert-Fn-key-woes/m-p/1330763 ThinkPad: X Series Laptops topics Tue, 26 Nov 2013 05:09:17 +0000 tp02_en <![CDATA[ ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1330763 Enjoying q new X240, despite some misgivings about keyboard layout. But there is one showstopper here: as a programmer, I rely heavily on "function" keys, arrow keys, and the (now redistributed) Home/End, Pg Up/Down, and Delete keys. The one I have absolutely never relied on of ]]> Tue, 26 Nov 2013 05:09:17 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1330763 eyeP <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1331133 The same "feature" is for Helix http://forums.lenovo.com/t5/X-Series-Tablet-ThinkPad-Laptops/Helix-End-Insert-keys-swapped/td-p/1130773

 

I share your frustration. I ]]> Tue, 26 Nov 2013 10:05:13 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1331133 Puppy~0001 <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1331299 If you truly don't need the Insert key and you're running Windows, you can redefine that via Windows registry settings:

 

http://www.merawindows.com/Forums/tabid/32 ]]> Tue, 26 Nov 2013 12:30:01 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1331299 F184A <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1335111 Note that remaping keys might also affect external keyboard behavior. It is not a solution, Lenovo have to fix that.

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Thu, 28 Nov 2013 16:46:32 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1335111 Puppy~0001
<![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1337269 You know the irony of this? It is that it's people like the original poster who see Insert as a "useless key" that led the geniuses in the keyboard department to view this as yet another key that can be eliminated to make the keyboard more "sexy-looking". It's hardly used, so ]]> Sat, 30 Nov 2013 13:50:22 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1337269 dr_st <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1338673  


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You know the irony of this? It is that it's people like the original poster who see Insert as a "useless key" that led the geniuses in the keyboard department to view this as yet another key that can be eliminated to make the ]]> Mon, 02 Dec 2013 04:41:48 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1338673 eyeP <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1338721 I'm not blaming it on you. I just found it ironic. :)

 

Apologies if it felt like I was attacking you. I am on your side. Like you, I hate the changes to the keyboard. I hated them enough on the X230, that I simply lost interest. To you, the clumsy implementation of the Ins/End shared ]]> Mon, 02 Dec 2013 05:53:10 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1338721 dr_st <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1357287


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If you truly don't need the Insert key and you're running Windows, you can redefine that via Windows registry settings:

 

new X1 Carbon just announced at CES. Gotta innovate for the post PC era. That pesky Fn key row is so 90's.

Mon, 06 Jan 2014 03:45:15 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1382067 RichardW <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1440423 Thanks for the tip on SharpKeys. It worked like a charm and my End key works regardless of if the FunctionLock is on or off. Seems a shame to have to do this at all. I don't understand the reason for dropping/moving/combining so many keys.

 

The X240 keyboard is definitely a step back ]]> Fri, 14 Feb 2014 08:49:55 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1440423 tourproto <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1440535


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Thanks for the tip on SharpKeys. It worked like a charm


... until you connect an external keyboard.

]]> Fri, 14 Feb 2014 11:14:16 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1440535 Puppy~0001 <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1442345 On the topic of this: Is there any information available on the topic of replacing the X240 keyboard straight away with the superior X201 keyboard, including the hardware clickers for the trackpoint? I would not mind losing warranty (if possible buying without warranty in the first place), just t ]]> Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:08:51 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1442345 decryphe <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1442379
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Otherwise, please suggest me a laptop with a trackpoint and a high-res screen. Nobody seems to make such a device anymore.


The X240 now has a 1080p screen o ]]> Sat, 15 Feb 2014 23:38:03 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1442379 RichardW <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1442387 Yes, it does have a high-res screen, but no, I do not consider it to have a trackpoint anymore, since it does not have physical clickers.

What it has is now in a totally unusable state (I did fiddle with the T431s recently to try out this new fancy trackpad).  wrote:

 

The overall benefits of the other aspects of the X240 outweigh the marginal keyboard and mouse configuration.


Glad to see this thread has a healthy lifespan. I cannot disagree with this statem ]]> Mon, 17 Feb 2014 22:36:30 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1444865 eyeP <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1449089


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wrote:

 

The overall benefits of the other aspects of the X240 outweigh the marginal keyboard and mouse configuration.


I cannot disagree w ]]> Thu, 20 Feb 2014 08:49:44 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1449089 tourproto <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1558252
With all due respect for "innovation", this ain't it! Neither cutting costs from the user interface... it's too obvious! ]]>
Tue, 13 May 2014 06:07:18 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1558252 gusat
<![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1599562 Thank you eyeP for sharing info on Sharp Keys. I fixed my end/insert nonsense! 

 

You rock!

 

Cheers,

KS

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Fri, 13 Jun 2014 05:11:43 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1599562 sykartik
<![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1744907 Sat, 04 Oct 2014 18:39:48 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1744907 madduck <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1776891 I am really missing the x220 keyboard.  As a non-mouse based user I find it both quicker and easier to use keyboard shortcuts... the Thinkpad keyboard/Trackpoint used to be one of its strongest selling points.  

 

While I can accept the chiclet island keys, why are they removing all t ]]> Fri, 31 Oct 2014 15:46:47 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1776891 benmonsense <![CDATA[ Betreff: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1808084 I love the x240, and I am quite sure Lenovo could fix it's only flaw, the End/Insert key issue, with a simple BIOS (or whatever this piece of firmware is calld now, maybe UEFI?) update. It should be possible to introduce an option called "Flip End/Insert key behaviour" quite like the ex ]]> Sat, 29 Nov 2014 20:43:58 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1808084 vincitus <![CDATA[ Betreff: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1808251 End/Insert is not the only issue. PgUp/PgDn are misplaced and often hit in error, PrtSc (which on Linux is SysRq with the Alt key right next to it) is in a bad place, and the touchpad/mouse buttons are a disaster. I hope Lenovo will see the light and return the X-series into professional domain.< ]]> Sun, 30 Nov 2014 08:18:02 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1808251 madduck <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1836392 In case someone else is looking to disable the INSERT key without using any software, you can do it from the registry. I noticed that someone else mentioned this in the topic, but the link is not working anymore.

 

Below are the changes you need to make that worked on my X240. Note th ]]> Fri, 19 Dec 2014 08:25:35 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/1836392 shinobul <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2060730 This worked for me - without any registry tweaks or additional software:

 

In Windows 8.1 try typing "Keyboard" on the Start screen to open Keyboard properties, and there use "ThinkPad F1-F12 keys" tab, to select "Legacy" option. It seems to be an option ]]> Sat, 11 Apr 2015 00:35:26 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2060730 radolang <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2061977 The lastest  firmware has fixed End/Insert, now it always act as "End", cheers!

 

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/lapto ]]> Tue, 14 Apr 2015 02:20:44 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2061977 cloudgao <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2170041 Aside from whether or not Lenovo should have designed it this way, or indeed whether they should have offered a solution, the following will allow the "End" key to work as most people would expect even when the F1-F12 functions keys are enabled...

 

Windows Registry Editor V ]]> Wed, 16 Sep 2015 20:22:43 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2170041 john_beasley <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2171936 AutoHotKey is perfect for keyboard issues. 

 

I'm working from home with my laptop today, and decided I needed a quick fix using the internal keyboard. Here's how simple the script is - just download and install autohotkey (ahkscript.org) and create a "myautofile.ahk", and p ]]> Sun, 20 Sep 2015 07:53:50 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2171936 vildauget <![CDATA[ Re: X240 End/Insert Fn key woes ]]> https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2224294 If you update your bios to the latest version, the problem you report regarding the end/insert key goes away. Namely, end/insert stops being sensitive to fnlock, only really giving you ins if you press Fn alongside it no matter what. Moreover, this update gives you an option on the bios to make t ]]> Wed, 09 Dec 2015 23:20:59 +0000 https://forums.lenovo.com/topic/findpost/1301/1330763/2224294 rafaelnonato