Showing results for 
Search instead for 
Do you mean 
Reply
Highlighted
What's DOS?
Posts: 87
Registered: ‎06-28-2011
Location: United States
Message 1 of 29 (60 Views)

Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!

Why are we still on a Froyo kernel again? Battery life and overall stability would be massively improved with the official Gingerbread 2.6.35.7 kernel.



I'm so happy I bought a phone that's 2 years newer than my original Droid, and yet they run the same damn kernel! We're missing out on a great deal of driver optimizations and battery savings. We all know how the hybrid kernels worked out when you pushed Gingerbread out to Froyo phones, though I think the DX got the short end of that stick. Still, if you're not giving us ICS, at least give us 100% Gingerbread. We did pay quite a bit of money for a half-baked phone, and my next one surely won't carry a Motorola badge after this farce. Thanks anyway, as I know we won't get a damn thing other than more Verizon bloatware.

What's DOS?
Posts: 9
Registered: ‎02-20-2012
Location: United States
Message 2 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!

Yeah, once I can I'm buying a G-Nex off contract. I wish I hadn't gotten this phone based on a motorola promise to unlock it. In the meantime, we should just make ourselves heard, and advise others against getting a Motorola, since they stand for broken promises and poor customer support.

Bit Torrent
Posts: 4,261
Registered: ‎09-08-2010
Location: United States
Message 3 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!

My wife repeatedly tells me that she "LOVES!' her X2.


After some well documented hiccups, she inherited my phone and sees no need for an upgrade.


ICS, she could care less. We are not your average phone buyers.


Best of luck with the Gnex. I have seen toys that were better designed and constructed...

What's DOS?
Posts: 51
Registered: ‎12-29-2011
Location: United States
Message 4 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!

when my phone makes calls ok.


 


emails ok.


 


takes pictures and uploads them ok with geotagging.


 


navigates ok.


 


gives me weather updates and alerts ok.


 


why would i want to tweak it?


 

What's DOS?
Posts: 87
Registered: ‎06-28-2011
Location: United States
Message 5 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!

Maybe some of you didn't own an X2 when it was brand new and there were no updates for 3-4 months. It was completely unstable, had terrible battery life, and generally the phone was unusable. As a customer, I remember these things. Battery life is still subpar compared to the Droid 3 on the GB kernel. I have to manually disable GPS otherwise background apps will drain the battery and heat up the phone so much it nearly burned my leg while it was in my pocket.


Has the X2 improved from its initial unusability? Yes. The phone can now be used as a basic phone. Is it up to par with other dual-cores of its time? No. Battery life is terrible if you actually USE the phone, performance is sub-par - most people have NO idea the phone is actually faster than shipped from the factory, memory management is TERRIBLE and causes reboots, and overall, the phone just falls short of what it COULD be.


My X2 only reboots when on stock 2.3.4. I've applied BAND-AID fixes because we can't update the kernel ourselves, but for the most part, reboots are down to about 1-2 per month with the fixes; sometimes the browser causes a reboot, other time heavy multitasking, and other times, GPS apps may cause a reboot. To me, that's unacceptable. You guys are supporting an under-developed product, and are just asking for more in the future. Shame really, but it's your money.

What's DOS?
Posts: 9
Registered: ‎02-20-2012
Location: United States
Message 6 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!


jason.droid said:

Maybe some of you didn't own an X2 when it was brand new and there were no updates for 3-4 months. It was completely unstable, had terrible battery life, and generally the phone was unusable. As a customer, I remember these things. Battery life is still subpar compared to the Droid 3 on the GB kernel. I have to manually disable GPS otherwise background apps will drain the battery and heat up the phone so much it nearly burned my leg while it was in my pocket.


Has the X2 improved from its initial unusability? Yes. The phone can now be used as a basic phone. Is it up to par with other dual-cores of its time? No. Battery life is terrible if you actually USE the phone, performance is sub-par - most people have NO idea the phone is actually faster than shipped from the factory, memory management is TERRIBLE and causes reboots, and overall, the phone just falls short of what it COULD be.


My X2 only reboots when on stock 2.3.4. I've applied BAND-AID fixes because we can't update the kernel ourselves, but for the most part, reboots are down to about 1-2 per month with the fixes; sometimes the browser causes a reboot, other time heavy multitasking, and other times, GPS apps may cause a reboot. To me, that's unacceptable. You guys are supporting an under-developed product, and are just asking for more in the future. Shame really, but it's your money.



 JBass's wife loves this phone. That means that everything you just said must be invalid and has not neither does exist. Now, ignorant G-Nex bash without any evidence or grounds.

What's DOS?
Posts: 34
Registered: ‎11-23-2010
Location: United States
Message 7 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!


JBass said:

My wife repeatedly tells me that she "LOVES!' her X2.


After some well documented hiccups, she inherited my phone and sees no need for an upgrade.


ICS, she could care less. We are not your average phone buyers.


Best of luck with the Gnex. I have seen toys that were better designed and constructed...



 Most people on this site are more than average phone buyers and care about ICS. I agree with OP's original post.

What's DOS?
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎01-10-2011
Location: United States
Message 8 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!

I'm glad my contract is ending this Sep. I'm not planning to get any more Motorola phones as long as they keep their phones bootlocked. At this point Motorola has no obligation to update their phones anymore and since the bootloader is locked, user cannot create standalone ROMs or heavely modify the phone for better performance. Droid X was my first and last Moto phone, this type of behavior makes custumers leave to other manufacturers. The only solution is to stop giving them money; ill just taky my business elsewhere.

What's DOS?
Posts: 7
Registered: ‎01-10-2011
Location: United States
Message 9 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!


GUANOPSYCHOTIC said:

when my phone makes calls ok.


 


emails ok.


 


takes pictures and uploads them ok with geotagging.


 


navigates ok.


 


gives me weather updates and alerts ok.


 


why would i want to tweak it?



 Better performance and stability.


Expand the lifetime with custom ROMs.


Have a trully yours device.


 


so the question is : Why not ?

Moto Sr Moderator
Posts: 15,412
Registered: ‎02-03-2016
Location: United States
Message 10 of 29 (60 Views)

Re: Forget the Spring 2012 OTA bloatware update - Motorola UPDATE our kernel!


dabbb said:

 JBass's wife loves this phone. That means that everything you just said must be invalid and has not neither does exist. Now, ignorant G-Nex bash without any evidence or grounds.



 So, because someone likes what they have and then admits it and doesn't say anywhere that the OP doesn't have problems than you assume that JBass means that since he doesn't have problems than the OP doesn't have problems? Not sure I understand the logic here.


I have seen so many cases where 1 person has absolutely no issues at all and another has all kinds of problems. It doesn't mean that the person with problems don't have legitimate problems because someone else doesn't. I see what was said just someone stating that they like the phone and doesn't see a reason to upgrade from that particular device.


Everyone has their own opinion and it should be respected while on this site. According to the House Rules:


"Be fair. No personal attacks. (And in general, don’t be a jerk): We encourage discussions, debates and even arguments, but please share your thoughts politely and constructively. Personal attacks and comments about other owners, moderators or Motorola employees are not welcome. Comments like "get over it," "stop whining," "why do you want that?" and other dismissals of other people's concerns are not appropriate. Talk about yourself vs. others."

I am not a Motorola/Lenovo Employee. I am just a volunteer who happens to be a Moderator. All comments are my own and are not necessarily Motorola/Lenovo's position.