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Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-07, 8:43 AM

Why are all model-specific guides being moved out of their respective forums and into a 'special interest'?  Is the rationale for this fear that linux talk scares normal windows-loving folks?  I think the posters that posted in the respective forums put the posts in the right place. 

 

Model-specific info should go into a model-specific area.

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-07, 8:50 AM

Hello garytr23,

 

since Linux is not an official Lenovo OS, it´s same as WIN7, we´ll try to keep Linux issues together at one place, also their are not model, but hardware specific.

I hope that´ll answer your question. :smileyhappy:

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-07, 9:22 AM

Not quite the same, Linux is actually a mature platform that lots of folks use for work and school.  If not in the regular model forums, maybe there's a way to organize the useful model-specific guides within the Linux Section?  There's been quite a few threads like this that contain important information about how to get it running on a specific model and dumping them here makes them harder to find.  Without better organization, more will keep popping up in the Model-specific forums because that's the most natural place for people to ask questions about this right now.  Generic linux knowledge from others doesn't help them get their laptop running, but rather it's contributions from people that own similar models, who congregate in the model-specific sections.

 

How about we make subfolders within the linux section for specific series of lenovos so you moderators will move fewer threads around and can put them in a more sensible place?

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-07, 9:38 AM

Hello garytr23,

 

feel free to contribute your ideas at Marks thread, members ideas are highly appreciated there. :smileyhappy:

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-07, 12:00 PM

garytr23, good thought!

 

lets think in this way as well...i am sure you must have seen most of the persons asking for compatability issues regarding various distros,most of them are first time users as well,if linux threads are posted in model specific boards as you mentioned they may no longer get highlighted due to the fact that other kind of issues crop up for users and linux threads may be sidelined

 

Your idea seems good!  but to have a better exposure it would be good if we do have a seperate linux section.what do u say of having model specific issues on linux within the linux section?what are your thoughts regarding this idea? 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-07, 16:25 PM
well, that's what I'm suggesting.  Create line-specific sections within the linux section, because only owners of sl-series (for instance) will have experience with sl-series linux issues.  And they tend to hang out in the sl-series threads.  
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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-08, 21:24 PM

I'm not sure why "unsupported" OSes deserve to be in a ghetto.

 

Sure, it's a nice ghetto, but it's still a ghetto.

 

I posted my thread on Ubuntu on the SL-400 in the SL thinkpad forum because as a thinkpad SL owner, that's the forum I go to most often, and thought many users, whether they run linux or windows, would find it interesting to talk about running ubuntu on their SL-400 laptop.

 

I don't like being in a ghetto.

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-09, 22:54 PM

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I'm not sure why "unsupported" OSes deserve to be in a ghetto.


 
It's probably not as evil of Lenovo as I'm tempted to think, but still, my assumption is this is supposed to be more of a community support site, and not an official Lenovo support medium, so I wonder how much Lenovo's OS preferences should matter.  
I, as a member of the community, enjoy helping other folks, and it seems like the moving of the threads would inconvenience them more than whatever is gained otherwise.  
Going to suggest it in Mark's thread at some point. 
 
Anyone agree/disagree with my proposed solution of model-specific sections under the Linux sections or have a better idea?

 

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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-10, 0:32 AM


garytr23 wrote:

It's probably not as evil of Lenovo as I'm tempted to think, but still, my assumption is this is supposed to be more of a community support site, and not an official Lenovo support medium, so I wonder how much Lenovo's OS preferences should matter.


 

You are correct - this is designed to be a user-to-user site and while Lenovo pays the bills, it's definitely not an official support channel.  Says so right in the first paragraph of the forum rules.  There are a few Lenovo employees roaming around in here helping out, but there's no guarantee of any official response from any of them.

 

The reason we created a Linux board and move threads here is because there are so few Linux users compared to the rest of the forum members.  If we left those threads in the model-specific boards, they would likely languish with few responses.  Our intention was to bring you together regardless of model since your common interest in Linux would allow you to help one another.  It was not intended to isolate you in a "ghetto".


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Re: Moving Model-Specific Linux info into the linux folder is a bad idea

2009-04-10, 0:38 AM

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It's probably not as evil of Lenovo as I'm tempted to think, but still, my assumption is this is supposed to be more of a community support site, and not an official Lenovo support medium, so I wonder how much Lenovo's OS preferences should matter.


 

 

The reason we created a Linux board and move threads here is because there are so few Linux users compared to the rest of the forum members.  If we left those threads in the model-specific boards, they would likely languish with few responses.  Our intention was to bring you together regardless of model since your common interest in Linux would allow you to help one another.  It was not intended to isolate you in a "ghetto".


 

This is demonstrably untrue. 1: There are plenty of linux / windows dual booters out in the world. 2:Look at how many responses the Ubuntu on SL400 thread got, and it got almost all of them while in the SL thinkpad forum.  That post was specifically about running Ubuntu on an SL400, and it was posted in that forum with full knowledge of there being a linux board.  It was not languishing.  It was however, exposing many windows users to the fact that they had another choice of OS to use on their laptop, and a source of information on how to do so (the thread) and they did NOT have to wander through the linux subboard looking for info on their specific model.

 

Just because you didn't intend to put my thread in a ghetto doesn't mean you didn't.  And by ghetto, I'm using the meaning of the word of a forced segregation, not the poor part of town.  The ubuntu on SL400 thread was posted where it was on purpose.  It was moved against my will.  I would appreciate it being put back where I posted it unless I broke some specific rule posting it there.

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