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Y710 Cube upgrade question

2017-07-08, 23:36 PM

Hi there. Tomorrow I'll be buying this great little machine of Y710 Cube. But I'm still in two minds as to which exact model to get. I obviously want to purchase one with  i7 6700 CPU model inside and I was planning to get the basic model with integrated Intel HD graphics card just to buy and add gtx 1080 right away. However, I'm not sure whether except for the obvious lack of dedicated GPU card and differences in hard drive s and ram this model ( Ideacentre Y710 Cube-15 i7-6700/8GB/1000 90FL0083PB ) has any other features missing compared to a model with Lenovo factory installed gtx1080. In other words is the motherboard and its features, psu, Xbox controller dongle capability and so on the same on all of the Y710 Cube line? Where I live (Poland) currently the highest model available is the one with gtx 1070 preinstalled but I would like to go with the most powerful graphics card the Cube supports hence my choice of gtx 1080 so that the machine would last without the need of upgrade as long as possible. 

 

And the other question I have regards the choice of the card itself - should I go with a reference founders edition gtx 1080 card with a blower- style cooler or can I go for a non-reference 'open air' cooler solution as long as it doesn't occupy more than two slots of the motherboard. Do you think that the latter solution may negatively impact the temperatures in a cramped y710 case and disrupt it's airflow or maybe it's not relevant as I imagine the fans of the open air cooler should pump the hot air towards the top cover vents of the case? Or maybe I'm wrong and the heat dissipation in case of such coolers works differently? On my big tower build I already have a Gigabyte gtx 1070 with open air cooler and I haven't noticed heat being dumped inside the case but that's a big tower case and I have plenty of case fans installed in it and I have never owned a micro atx case  so I don't know what to expect really in terms of the thermals. I would really appreciate help from knowledgeable y710 owners of this forum or Lenovo experts maybe. 

 

Kindest regards and greetings from Poland

 

Bogumił Kitkowski

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Re: Y710 Cube upgrade question

2017-07-09, 21:09 PM

Hello from the U.S.A and congratulations on your purchase!

 

I do not own a Y710, and I do not work for Lenovo, so not sure I should offer an opinion but will anyway.

 

With a case that small and crowded I would normally only consider blower style cards if I was building or upgrading due to those cards venting the GPU heat outside the case.

 

However, in this particular style of case the GPU is installed "upside down" and there are vents on top of the case that should allow non-reference style fans to send heat out that way (thru the top). Worth considering is the fact that there is a "top panel" installed over the top of the GPU (beneath the top vents). It is perforated, but I have no way of knowing how much this would impede non-reference style fans getting the air out the top.

 

So - Unless I was pretty sure non-reference style cards/fans would be able to push plenty of air out the top, I would stick with the reference style blower cards that this case was designed to use.

 

all the best to you - fullonshred

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2017-07-09, 23:07 PM

I thank you profusely for sharing your insight on that matter, especially the bit abot top panel that I wasn't aware off - indeed that may impede the airflow a bit. I guess you're right about the blower style cooler, I'm leaning towards that choice either - just to err on the safe side and avoid the unexpected problems. I also thought about the issue of the nonreference cards being factory overclocked in most cases and that adding the increased strain on the psu. I guess a 450-watt Cube psu is already bordering on the the gtx 1080 minimum power limits so since I'm not planning on upgrading the power supply I will stick to reference card and its stock clocks. Anyway thanks again for the reply!

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2017-07-10, 2:20 AM

You are certainly most welcome. Did you decide yet between the model with no GPU and the one with the 1070 factory installed? I faced a very similar decision when I bought my Y900 34-ISZ back around January. With the 2 Y900 models the version with GPU had twice the system memory, a much better CPU Cooler, a 256gb SSD vs a 128gb ssd, and a 2TB Storage Drive vs 1tb in the less expensive model. In the end a GTX980 GPU suits me fine for now and the other upgrades more than made up for the difference in price.

 

I am eager to know what you bought (or decide to buy) and how you like it. A good friend of mine is considering purchasing the Y710 Cube and any personal experience you can share about them will be appreciated. For one thing he wonders how noisy these Cubes are. He wants to use a Y710 as a home theater computer and worries about the noise level.

 

Best of luck to you and I appreciate your reply and look forward to hearing your experiences with your Y710.

 

All The Best - 'shred

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2017-07-10, 16:16 PM

I ewentually decided to buy the model without gpu and bought gtx 1080 founders edition separately. Both items are being shipped to me right now. From all I've been able to gather each y710 comes with the same 450 psu and the same cpu cooling, at least for i7 6700 which I purchased. My Cube has also 8GB of RAM and 240 SSD and I've just bought a 3TB HDD while as regards the additional RAM I'll decide which one to buy when I receive my Y710 and look inside. Hopefully everything with go seamlessly with my build and by going this route I will have saved nearly 800$ (in my currency) compared to the Cube with gtx 1080 preinstalled... I will let you know my experience once I have assembled everything. BTW my Y710 has no OS preinstalled - I have a spare W10 lying around which I'm going to use.

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2017-07-10, 17:48 PM

Thank you for your reply. I hope all goes well with your build and look forward to hearing about your results. Anything you post here regarding your upgrades will be a help to others at some point. You should have one very fast, compact gaming machine when you are done.

 

My Y900 came with 16gb of Samsung DDR4. I added 16gb more of Gskill NS Series DDR4 and it performs well alognside the Samsung memory.

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2017-07-10, 19:10 PM

I have also considered buying y900 at some point - it is a very slick and well designed machine - I just couldn't resist the compact streamlined design of y710. I already have my custom amd build with nonreference gtx1070 and lots of visual tuning which I built from scratch myself almost 10 years ago and have been upgrading eversince... It's a beastly 50 kg big tower gargantuan case and I always thought that only such big boxes could provide adequate cooling. Yet having seen and read about y710 I just decided to take a plunge and prove myself wrong, Hopefully I won't be disappointed. I'll still hold on my to my big tower as I have almost 15TB of data and games on it anda  triple boot system while the new Cube build will hopefully serve me a couple of years into the future and wil be able to handle games future aaa titles in an admirable fashion and when gtx1080 proves insufficient I'll swap it fot something more powerful and should the need arise upgrade the psu as well. Hopefully i7 6700 and ddr4 will last a long time, too.

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Re: Y710 Cube upgrade question

2017-07-23, 18:49 PM

 Just to let everyone know. Everything went smooth with my upgrade and gtx 1080 FE runs flawlessly in my build. The only problem I've encountered is the issue with the second memory module I purchased to upgrade the 8gb which came preinstalled in the machine. It might be due to memory incompatibility. I described it in another post and I'm  currently waiting for any hints.

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