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Survey: Your Ideal Business Laptop

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SURVEY ENDED WEDNESDAY, JULY 29 - Results in this thread

 

 

*** ThinkPad lovers! ***

 

Please take this survey about which features are important to you in a business-class notebook.

 

A major motivation for the survey is to convince Lenovo to build at least some ThinkPads with premium screens. But please fill out a survey even if you don't care about that. It's an opportunity to tell Lenovo what other features are important to you.

 

776 people filled out surveys.Thank you very much for your help! Smiley Happy


 

 

IMPORTANT: Please note that Lenovo is not associated with the survey in any way, other than allowing me to post the link and results in this forum.

 

 


PLEASE NOTE: The "Survey Instructions" below are NOT the survey itself! (That's at the link at the top of this post.) They're just the Instructions that appear at the top of the survey when you take it. On the theory that it's useful to have a copy here when interpreting the survey results which follow.
The Survey Instructions
Your Ideal Business Laptop

 

You are shopping for a new business-class laptop.

 

Please answer the following questions about your laptop experience, and the features and specifications that are important to you.

 

Questions marked with an asterisk (*) must be completed to submit your survey. All other questions are optional; you may skip them or any part of them if you like.

 

Thank you!

 

Please Note: This survey is being conducted by a group of laptop enthusiasts, not by any manufacturer. References to actual laptops are for comparison purposes only. Some of the options included in the survey are fictional, as are all prices. Aggregate results may be shared with laptop manufacturers to help them design machines to suit your needs.

 

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Survey Question 1 Results: Number of laptops purchased in last year.

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Question 1:

How many laptops have you been responsible for purchasing over the past year? Please include machines that you purchased as well as  those purchased by your employer or others based on your recommendation.

 

 

Results:

 

 

 

 

 

  None     59    8%

    1     205   27%

   3-5    329   43%

  10-99   136   18%

 100-999   24    3%

1000-9999   6    1%

>= 10000    4    1%

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Total     763

 

 

This question has two unfortunate errors: there is no way to answer "2", or "6-9", laptops purchased. Oops.

 

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Survey Question 2 Results: Laptop brands used.

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Question 2*:

Which of the following laptop brands have you used?

 

 

Results:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

                                 Have Used Both

                      Have Used    ThinkPad And

 

Apple MacBook Pro      216  28%       27%

Dell Latitude          341  44%       43%

HP Business Laptop     224  29%       29%

Lenovo / IBM ThinkPad  701  90%

Panasonic ToughBook     32   4%        4%

Sony VAIO              156  20%       20%

Toshiba Portege        100  13%       13%

Others                 173  22%


Total Responses        776

 

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Survey Question 3 Results p1: Important Business-Class Laptop Features

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Question 3:

Please rate the importance of each feature for your business-class laptop.

 

 

Results:

 

 

Importance       Rating  Importance %

Crucial                1          100

Very important         2           75

Important              3           50

Somewhat important     4           25

Unimportant            5            0

 

 

 

 

 

Note: Error bars show standard deviation; 68% of survey respondents rated importance in this range. The uncertainty in mean importance (standard error) is much smaller than shown: 1% for each feature.

 

 

 

                        Importance % 

Feature               Mean +/- StDev  Responses

 

High build quality        89     16       761

High durability           88     17       761

Screen quality            86     19       757

Keyboard quality          83     21       754

Long battery life         73     23       761

Long warranty             65     26       758

Cool operation            65     25       762

Silent operation          64     26       757

Track point mouse         63     36       757

Processor speed           61     25       748

After-sales support       59     30       753

Light weight              57     26       756

DVI-D/HDMI/DisplayPort    57     30       766

Bluetooth                 52     32       765

Docking port              50     34       755

USB 3.0 port              50     31       755

Flash card (SD) reader    49     31       753

Analog video out (VGA)    49     33       751

Small size                48     27       750

eSATA port                44     31       747

ExpressCard slot          44     30       753

Touch pad mouse           39     35       757

Low cost                  38     24       752

Sleek design              37     27       691

CardBus expansion slot    37     29       750

Illuminated keyboard      36     31       762

WWAN (cellular Internet)  35     32       753

ECC memory                34     29       751

FireWire port             33     30       758

Integrated camera         30     31       764

Fingerprint reader        28     31       759

Touch screen (tablet PC)  19     25       757

 

 

Results p2: Other important features

 

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Survey Question 4 Results: Number of Mouse Buttons.

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Question 4:

How many buttons should the integrated mouse have?

 

 

Results:

 

 

 

Buttons   Votes 

   1       4    1%

   2     256   33%

   3     487   63%

Other     22    3%

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Total    769

 

 

Comments for "Other"

 

Vertical and horizontal scrolling.

 

2+1 layout (see A22p) is best. Then middle-click and scroll are distinct.

 

At least two, plus some option for scrolling.

 

3-4.

 

2, but 3 is a bonus.

 

Only 3 like in ThinkPad X200s.

 

L + R + easy-to-use scroll functionality.

 

Don't understand what it means.

 

4.

 

Don't understand your question.

 

2+1(w/scroll).

 

3 buttons, would be nice if the buttons would lock, like on my ThinkPad 760xd.

 

5 buttons and some scroll wheel function.

 

At *least* 2. While I do not need more I can see why it might be useful for other users.

 

9.

 

6.

 

Standard two-button with scroll.

 

Define integrated mouse... Trackpad?--it depends... an external bluetooth/wireless/corded will probably be worthless.

 

Touch sensitive like MacBook's.

 

Don't care.

 

Three for TrackPoint and 2 for touchpad.

 

The ThinkPad T series is perfect.

 

 

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Survey Question 5 Results: Graphics Chip.

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Question 5:

The laptop's graphics chip should be (Integrated / Discrete / Switchable):

 


Results:

 

 

 

 

GPU         Votes  

Integrated  240   31%

Discrete    113   15%

Switchable  414   54%

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Total       767

 

 

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Survey Question 6 Results: MVA / PVA / IPS Experience.

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Question 6*:

Have you ever used a flat-panel screen (laptop, external monitor, HDTV) with IPS, MVA or PVA technology?

 


Results:

 

 

 

 

 

Don't Know  230   30%

No          150   19%

Yes         396   51%

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Total       776

 

 

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Survey Question 7 Results p1: Favorite ThinkPad from 20 Choices: Screen Size and Resolution.

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Question 7*:

 

Your local Laptops Unlimited stocks 20 different business-class laptops.

 

There are 4 base models that differ in size, weight, graphics speed, and price:

  1. ThinkPad X301: 13.3" screen with space for 135x42 text characters, 3.3 pounds
  2. ThinkPad T400: 14.1" screen with space for 143x45 text characters, 5.0 pounds
  3. ThinkPad T500: 15.4" screen with space for 157x49 text characters, 5.9 pounds
  4. ThinkPad W500 graphics workstation: 15.4" screen w/space for 157x49 text chars, 6.2 pounds

 

Whichever model you choose, you can upgrade the processor, memory, disk, operating system, and application software to suit your needs. Each has the same factory warranty.

For each base model, you can choose from 5 different screens. The cheapest option is the base screen. There are also 4 premium screens with different resolutions. Compared to the base screen, each premium screen has:

  • Higher contrast ratio
  • Wider viewing angles
  • Superior color accuracy
  • High brightness
  • Non-reflective surface
  • Higher cost ($50 - $140 more)

 

When comparing screens with different resolutions, here are some things to keep in mind: A screen with higher resolution has higher Mega Pixels (MP) and pixels per inch (ppi), and:

  • Shows more information (like more spreadsheet cells) at a time;
  • Can show smoother text and more-detailed images;
  • Shows smaller text, desktop icons and window buttons in many operating systems;
  • Costs more.

Which one of the following laptops are you most likely to buy?

 

 

Results:

 

 

 

 

Question 7 Results p2 shows how the above histogram has changed over the course of the survey.

 

 

 

ThinkPad                                   Votes

 

--- ThinkPad X301: 13.3" screen w/space for 135x42 text chars 3.3 pounds ---

$2250: X301 with Base Screen      1280x800  1.0MP 113ppi     9    1%

$2300: X301 with Premium Screen 1 1280x800  1.0MP 113ppi    10    1%

$2330: X301 with Premium Screen 2 1440x900  1.3MP 128ppi    42    5%

$2360: X301 with Premium Screen 3 1680x1050 1.8MP 149ppi    30    4%

$2390: X301 with Premium Screen 4 1920x1200 2.3MP 170ppi    58    7%

                                                           ---------

                                                           149   19%

 

--- ThinkPad T400: 14.1" screen w/space for 143x45 text chars 5.0 pounds ---

 $850: T400 with Base Screen      1280x800  1.0MP 107ppi     8    1%

 $900: T400 with Premium Screen 1 1280x800  1.0MP 107ppi    17    2%

 $930: T400 with Premium Screen 2 1440x900  1.3MP 120ppi    83   11%

 $960: T400 with Premium Screen 3 1680x1050 1.8MP 141ppi    66    9%

 $990: T400 with Premium Screen 4 1920x1200 2.3MP 161ppi    83   11%

                                                           ---------

                                                           257   33%

 

--- ThinkPad T500: 15.4" screen w/space for 157x49 text chars 5.9 pounds ---

 $900: T500 with Base Screen      1280x800  1.0MP  98ppi     4    1%

 $950: T500 with Premium Screen 1 1280x800  1.0MP  98ppi     9    1%

 $980: T500 with Premium Screen 2 1440x900  1.3MP 110ppi    23    3%

$1010: T500 with Premium Screen 3 1680x1050 1.8MP 129ppi    57    7%

$1040: T500 with Premium Screen 4 1920x1200 2.3MP 147ppi    72    9%

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                                                           165   21%

 

--- ThinkPad W500 workstation: 15.4" screen 157x49 text chars 6.2 pounds ---

$1250: W500 with Base Screen      1280x800  1.0MP  98ppi     2    0%

$1300: W500 with Premium Screen 1 1280x800  1.0MP  98ppi     5    1%

$1330: W500 with Premium Screen 2 1440x900  1.3MP 110ppi    10    1%

$1360: W500 with Premium Screen 3 1680x1050 1.8MP 129ppi    34    4%

$1390: W500 with Premium Screen 4 1920x1200 2.3MP 147ppi    98   13%

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                                                           149   19%

 

None of the above. I'd buy a different laptop.              56    7%

 

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TOTAL                                                      776

 

 

 

People choosing to buy another laptop would buy:

 

--- ThinkPad X200/s: 12.1" screen w/space for 123x38 text chars 3.0 pounds ---

$1150: X200 with Base Screen      1280x800  1.0MP 125ppi     4    1%

$1200: X200 with Premium Screen 1 1280x800  1.0MP 125ppi     3    0%

$1230: X200 with Premium Screen 2 1440x900  1.3MP 140ppi     4    1%

$1260: X200 with Premium Screen 3 1680x1050 1.8MP 164ppi     0    0%

$1290: X200 with Premium Screen 4 1920x1200 2.3MP 187ppi     2    0%

                                                            --------

                                                            13    2%

 

X200/s votes counted above:

Either x200/s or Fujitsu or new T400s

x200

X200s

X200

 

X200s with Premium screen, 1280x800 (maybe 1440x900)

x200 sized with high quality screen premium 1280x800

x200 with a Premium Screen, 1280x800 or 1440x900


X200s 1440x900 with wide viewing angles

X200s with Premium Screen 1440x900

X200s with high resolution screen

x200s 1440x900 (140ppi)

 

Lenovo x200 Tablet with Premium Screen 4  NO MULTITOUCH

X200s with Premium Screen 4  1920x1200

 


Explicit X200/s choices are not included in the survey, respondents must select "None of the above. I'd buy another computer." and write in X200 or X200s. Further discussion is in this thread at NotebookReview.com.

 

 

All Others:

 

I don't like wide-screen, I would buy a T400 Premium Screen 4 with a 4:3 ratio

 

MacBook Pro until ThinkPad build quality equals the T4X models

 

T60p with UXGA IPS

 

Not available: 13.3" ThinkPad that is more consumer priced while having the same ThinkPad quality (not SL300).

 

ThinkPad SL400

 

ThinkPad SL500

 

sager

 

I am not interested in widescreen laptops.

 

Lenovo seems to be slipping with new ThinkPads.  Other choices would be from HP or Dell  <5lb  ~13  *vertical* height (I don t like widescreen format in a small laptop.)

 

Apple MacBook Pro 17

 

Two separate units: mobile t400s 1680x1050 + workstation w700 2560*1600 for high demand computations.

 

X61

 

T60 series

 

Axiotron ModBook Pro or Apple Macbook Pro

 

I'd look for an ARM-based machine, perhaps an Acorn.

 

netbook

 

T400 with Premium Screen 3 without the camera.

 

I would buy some of each model, typically with the best or next to best screen.

 

Lenovo X61 Tablet

 

T500 with 4:3, 1400x1050 premium screen.

 

ThinkPad T61 with a 14.1" 4:3 aspect ratio screen.

 

IdeaPad y550

 

If Lenovo had the same quality of service (NBD, on site) as Dell has, I'd buy the 2360 X301. Otherwise, I would get a Dell 4200 or 4300 (or an XPS 1330, but only with XP), although the Dell E series is not as reliable as the D series.

 

T61 with 1600x1200 screen and Core 2 Duo or quad processor.

 

Weight and cost are my main factors. While the X301 fits the bill re: lbs (all I expect from a 13.3" is the base or premium 1 specs) the cost is far too high. If there was an option around the T400 price with a 3.7-4.0 lbs weight that is what I'd want.

 

I do not care for your selection.

 

ThinkPad with 1600x1200 (4:3) premium screen.

 

Tablet with wide viewing angle.

 

14.1" with 4:3 ratio in SXGA+ (1400x1050).

 

T400s 14.1" 1440x900.

 

ThinkPad T400s.

 

Ultraportable with 12" screen, 4:3 aspect ratio, 1440x1080.

 

I would base my choice on the availability of open-source Linux video drivers.

 

4:3 ratio screen 1400x1050 or higher resolution, non-glossy!

 

Dell Latitude or XPS.

 

Would prefer 4:3 aspect ratio, 14" or 15", 1400x1050.

 

Samsung.

 

MacBook Pro 17" unibody.

 

ThinkPad T400s.

 

Thinkpad T60 with 4:3 screen, or similar.

 

 

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Survey Question 8 Results page 1: Reasons for Laptop Choice (from 20 listed ThinkPads)

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Question 8:

Why did you choose the laptop in the previous question?

 

 

ThinkPad X301

 

 

ThinkPad T400

 

 

ThinkPad T500

 

 

ThinkPad W500

 

 

Another Laptop

 
 
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Survey Question 9 Results: Pre-Installed Operating System.

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Question 9:

The laptop should come with the following Operating System pre-installed:

 

 

Results :

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Operating System                       Votes 

No Operating System                        137  18%

Linux - Debian                              60   8%

Linux - Fedora / Red Hat Enterprise Linux   17   2%

Linux - OpenSUSE / SLED / SLES              16   2%

Linux - Ubuntu / Kubuntu                    73   9%

Mac OS X                                     6   1%

Windows 2000                                 1   0%

Windows XP Home or Pro 32-bit               73   9%

Windows XP Home or Pro 64-bit               25   3%

Windows Vista (any variety) 32-bit           9   1%

Windows Vista (any variety) 64-bit          43   6%

Windows 7 (any variety)                    244  32%

Other                                       65   8%

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Total                                      769

 

 

 

Other Pre-Installed OS

 

XP64 by default, but give me a refund when I wipe it for Linux.

 

Whatever makes the thing cheaper.

 

Linux - Gentoo.

 

Windows 7 / Gentoo Linux dual boot.

 

Windows Vista Business 64-bit. No cutting corners w/ Home Basic. Windows 7 when available.

 

Windows 7 64-bit, with downgrade rights to Windows XP.

 

Windows 7 Professional 64-bit.

 

Just support the hardware and publish API documentation for it. Stay out of the SW business.

 

Your choice, with the option of a clean install.

 

Windows XP Pro / Ubuntu.  Why can't you have both?

 

Current -STABLE branch of FreeBSD; that or no OS.

 

Linux - Mandriva.

 

Depends on the need.

 

Windows 7 or Vista, as long as both are 64-bit.

 

W7 x64.

 

A preinstallation environment which permits installation of the OS you have bought or received along with your laptop.

 

No operating system, with CD of Lenovo/IBM add-on utilities and applications.

 

An option should be provided for the consumer to choose between Windows or Linux and given the appropriate CD(s) with instructions upon receiving/delivery.

 

Let user choose between Windows and various flavors of Linux. I prefer XP, but Windows 7 should be good too.

 

Windows XP Pro 32.

 

Sun Solaris 10 (or OpenSolaris) or OS X (industrial strength UNIX core to the OS).

 

Have not thought about it yet.

 

[Any OS,] as long as it can support Microsoft Office.

 

Windows 7 Professional.

 

Windows Vista x64 or Windows 7 x64.

 

Windows XP-Pro today, Windows 7 in about a year.

 

I'll put on it what I feel best suits my current needs.

 

Win 7 64-bit.

 

Don't care, as long there are drivers for actual Windows versions available (right now including XP).

 

I'm all about 64-bit. So as of now since 7 is still in RC, laptops should have your choice of OS(es) installed. Mine would be Vista Ultimate x64.

 

Windows Vista or Win7 64-bit.

 

Vista or 7, 64-bit.

 

Any 64 bit operating system.

 

Multi-boot system with Windows7 / Mac OS X / Solaris.

 

Dual boot Linux / Windows XP (or Windows 7).

 

If the customer orders > 3GB of RAM, they must be presented with a 64-bit option.

 

If the release of Win 7 goes well then I would say that, with the choice of 64 bit and 32 bit versions offered upon sale for any configuration over 2GB of RAM.

 

Either XP Pro 64 or Win 7.

 

Don't care.

 

Windows dual boot with Fedora, or no operating system.

 

Offer the choice, [with] default: No Operating System. (I'd choose Ubuntu / gNewSense.)

 

Give people the option of their choice. I personally am getting tired of having the option [of only] one type of OS (currently Vista, or Vista with a downgrade to XP). I would use any of [the listed OSes] on a Lenovo except Mac OS X due to the [questionable] legality of a hackintosh.

 

eCS (PS/2); multiboot with XP Pro and RHEL.

 

An option of eComStation would be my preference, or no OS would be OK.

 

eComStation.

 

eComStation [a.k.a. OS/2 as enhanced by Serenity Sys. Inc.].

 

eCS 2.0.

 

Options: an *nix; none; and a stable, workable Windows version (not Vista).

 

FreeBSD.

 

It *must* support Linux, but offer the choice of OS based on its use.

 

Don't care - handled by corp purchasing.

 

Available without an OS for the zealots; with any of several mainstream Linuxes so hardware is known to be widely supported; recent Windows (larger production runs); and dual boot (making a living can trump OS favoritism).

 

Dual boot Windows XP and Linux Fedora.

 

Windows 7 SP1.

 

From beta testing of Windows 7 64-bit, it seems to be a runner.

 

My laptop, my choice please.

 

The hardware and available drivers should support Windows and Unix / Linux.

 

Give me the option to select from various options at purchase time, don't just give me a limited option of what OS to pick based on what has been installed at the factory.

 

Dual boot Kubuntu / Vista.

 

Mac OS X + Linux + Windows.

 

Windows 7 (Any) x64-bit.

 

Debian or a preinstallation environment with choices. Maybe with a choice of 2-3 different Linux distributions.

 

Ubuntu or Debian Linux.

 

 

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