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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-10-13, 23:33 PM

Lenovo needs to understand why IBM Thinkpads were so popular.
It's as though they're trying to subjugate/control their customers with BIOS Whitelists and propriety components.
At the end of the day, we'll just jump ship.

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-10-14, 3:16 AM

class action is always a solution, and penalties can be rather painful when its a wiful act against competitive refurbising

 

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-10-14, 14:35 PM

Class action with time and cost contraints make it unviable, simpler to look elsewhere as I did after two decades with IBM/Lenovo.

After attempts to upgrade components of the X1 Carbon Gen 1, my perception of Lenovo changed and looked elsewhere to replace the gaming Y580.
I am not here to knock Lenovo but to encourage change of their ancient Chinese mentality (I'm Chinese) of 'Getting one over others" attitude.
To discriminate/disfavour their loyal customers beggars believe, it leaves very little to be desired.

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-10-14, 17:39 PM

defending a class action would set Lenovo back so much cash along with costs and disbursements

 

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-10-15, 17:57 PM

I actually either got lucky and the Killer 1550 is on the whitelist (along with Intel 9260s) or there is no whitelist. I'm guessing the former.

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-10-18, 6:15 AM

Hello,

 

Lenovo hasn't had whitelists for WLAN cards for several years--I've upgraded numerous systems without issue.  I don't use WWAN cards, so can't comment on those.

 

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2018-11-02, 3:09 AM

my X230 has a battery and a Wi-Fi whitelist, both need to be fixed ASAP

 

 

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2019-03-21, 8:33 AM

Hello @goretsky,

 

I have thinkpad e480 with an intel ac3165 wifi+bt combo card installed as default and when i check support page this only shows 2-3 different wifi cards but i want to go through broadcom or atheros for another reasons. Are you sure about all lenovo products have no whitelist on bios for long time? I had bad experience before with a toshiba portege series to replace next gen wifi but bios did not recognise it and did not open system.

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2019-03-21, 8:38 AM

Lenovo still does have whitelist on some models but it’s really hard to tell which ones unless you research.

 

the Thinkpad T440s most definitely does as I own one and as of the latest bios it still has a whitelist but... this is a business laptop.

 

i learned though that the next model up, the T450 does not have a whitelist.

 

maybe consumer laptops are more flexible in terms of wlan card replacement?

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Re: WWAN and wireless card BIOS whitelists? Lenovo, COME ON.

2019-03-23, 21:00 PM
weird not to know which models have whitelist. so how can i dare to replace wifi card, this is totally risk to order. only chance to know somebody who use same card and borrow his card to try on system then place order or not.
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