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How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-01-13, 23:35 PM

Hey all... How fast (or slow) does your Rapiddrive Ideapad boot to Windows 7?  Please post your specs in this thread and share your thoughts on your Ideapad EE w/ Rapiddrive.

 

Lenovo marketed its Enhanced Experience Rapiddrive models as booting in a stunning 15 seconds ( LenovoVision YouTube Rapiddrive video June 2010 ).  I'm disappointed I paid a premium for my Y560 in Sept 2010.  It takes 45 seconds to reach the Windows 7 desktop (3x longer than what is advertised/marketed).  It seems like Rapiddrive isn't working.  Note: This is booting with antivirus temporarily disabled and most bloatware uninstalled (removed anything that might slow boot time).

 

Here is one of there original market video from June 2010 

 

My Y560

Lenovo Y560 (Model 0646-58U) Enhanced Experience with RapidDrive (500 GB HD + 32 GB SSD)

Intel Core i7 1.73 GHz, 4 GB memory, Windows 7 64-bit, 532 GB harddrive

 

Windows 7 64-bit boot time

00 sec - Power on

04 sec - Lenovo screen

09 sec - Window starting

38 sec - WIndows logon screen

46 sec - Windows desktop (apps/services still loading in background)

 

 

 

 

 

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12-03-2010

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-01-17, 4:16 AM

Mine does it almost identically.....but I don't have a Rapid Drive, check your drivers?

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-01-19, 6:10 AM

Thanks Karl.

 

I don't think it's the drivers.  I even reinstalled Windows 7 purely on the SSD drive to test and the best boot time I get is 35 secs.  My Y560 bought in Sept 2010 is far from the 15 sec boot time they were marketing months before in June 2010.  I paid extra for Rapiddrive but it's not living up to the claims or marketing hype.  Lenovo doesn't post benchmarks comparing how Rapiddrive and non-Rapiddrive versions of the same laptop compare.

 

Anyone know easy ways to run other performance tests like the ones they show in their Rapiddrive video where they power on and run a script that launches multiple apps?

 

Please post your own test results for your Rapiddrive laptops.

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-01-22, 16:18 PM

I don't have an EE RapidDrive but most likely you can open the back of your laptop and get the model number of your SSD drive (it should be next to small a "wireless card"), should be:

SSD, Samsung MMDPE64GEDXP-MVB mSATA 64G
SSD, Samsung MMCRE32GEDXP-MVB mSATA 32G

 

I would call support and ask them what the boot time is expected to be. If it's not as expected get a full refund for your laptop, or maybe they'll ship you a replacement part.

 

 

 

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01-30-2011

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-01-30, 12:38 PM
Same specs here. Although I've noticed that at the store and online, the windows performance index scores for the hd performance is 7.9. however, mine is 5.9. wonder what your score is. and if maybe we are missing a driver or have the wrong bios. I've also noticed that the boot order in bios has the ssd listed as an ide drive along with the sata hd. would love to figure this out because it's not as good as I expected.
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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-02-01, 8:15 AM

jbondc, my SSD is a Samsung MMCRE32GEDXP-MVBL1 (32 GB).

 

joseph.  My Windows Experience Index scores are:

  • Processor: 7.1
  • Memory: 5.9
  • Graphics: 6.7
  • Gaming Graphics: 6.7
  • Primary harddisk: 5.9

I'm still testing/running 100% on the SSD and I agree... not as good as advertised/expected.

 

I'm going to call support and post results here.  Please do the same and keep posting your EE Rapid Drive experiences.

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-02-23, 2:12 AM

here are my specs. i7 1.6

aftermarket rapiddrive with samsung chip and lenovo drivers

stock install of window 7 home prm (installed per rapiddrive install instructions)

 

2.86     secs to lenovo logo

8.51     to windows startup screen

30.37   to logon screen

37.60   to desktop (drivers still loading)

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-03-13, 0:00 AM

Kyle, my scores were identical to yours but

 

I upgrade to 8gb of ram at 1033MHz and brought my memory score up from 5.9 to 7.4

also separating my ssd from the HDD and not installing rapiddrive took my 5.9 to 6.8

 

my boot time from power on to desktop is still about 30 seconds though.  no joy on getting the 15 sec boot time yet.

 

so far tried the factory restore with rapiddrive and win7 64bit EE os, ssd tweaker, aligning ssd (all using samsung m800 ssd), and upgraded to fastest 8gb memory.

 

any ideas would be appreciated.

 

wondering what I need to try or look into next.  upgrade my 5400 rpm drive to 7200, or look into that whole sandy bridge stuff or look for some sort of bios mod...

 

wondering why my set up can't get the fasted boot time.

 

 

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-06-06, 8:34 AM

I"ve come to the realization that a sandy bridge mobo and cpu are required to obtain the 15 sec boot time.  along with the ssd of course.

 

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Re: How fast (or slow) is your EE Rapiddrive?

2011-07-21, 15:38 PM

Thanks joseph.

 

Followup:

 

I've bought a regular 2.5" SSD drive to install into my Y560.  Unfortunately, the Rapiddrive driver can't be uninstalled.  This means I can't use the newer and faster SSD drive as my primary boot drive.  To do so, I have to obtain a Window 7 installation CD and reinstall it from scratch, as well as purchase backup/recovery program.  I can't use Lenovo's OneKey recovery because both the factory image and any backups I make have the Rapiddrive driver.  So this is a warning for anyone who wants to upgrade their harddrive... It won't be straight forward.

 

When I recovered a backup image to a 2.5" HDD or SSD, it will boot and run only if the Samsung 32GB mSATA SSD card is removed.  Once the Samsung 32GB mSATA SSD is plugged back in, it will bluescreen.  I tried variations with backup after running the rapiddrivetool.exe to separate the drives too.  Lenovo has documented that the driver can't be uninstalled but I hoped the rapiddrivetool.exe would work in this scenario, but it doesn't.  So, my options are to spend extra time and money to do a fresh install and manually recover files, or chuck the mSATA SSD card. I imagine anyone who has a hardware failure in their Samsung SSD will have a similar headaches restoring their systems as well.

 

Was Rapiddrive worth it in the long run? The net is I paid over a $100 premium for noticeable speed improvement but not the improvement that was advertised.  Hindsight 20/20, the alternative would have been to avoid Rapiddrive, save the $100+, and within 6 months to a year, buy faster 2.5" SSD drive, save time and money on backup/recovery software and Windows recover CDs, and avoid poorly supported Rapiddrive driver problems.

 

 

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