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G50-45 Virtualization

2014-08-03, 18:38 PM

There seems to be no option to enable AMD-V (Hardware Virtualization) in the BIOS.  The CPU has the feature.  How can I repair this bug?

 

 

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-08-04, 8:51 AM

There should be option to set in bios entering by novo button

intel and amd

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-08-04, 13:34 PM
There is none. This BIOS is gimped.

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-08-05, 7:34 AM

Download hwinfo and check cpu options that your cpu have.My is amd.

amd-v cpu features

 

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-08-05, 11:21 AM
I already know my cpu supports virtualization features. It’s a K8… every single 64bit CPU made supports virtualization (except Celerons). However, Just for you… here are the CPU flags supported:


MMX (+), SSE, SSE2, SSE3, SSSE3, SSE4.1, SSE4.2, SSE4A, x86-64, AMD-V, AES, AVX

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-09-20, 22:06 PM

Hello,

my new Lenovo G50-45 (A8-6) has NOT virtualization support in BIOS as you can see in the attached screenshot.

 

The CPU (AMD A8-6410 APU with AMD Radeon R5 Graphics) seems to support virtualization, but I cannot find a way to enable it in BIOS.

 

Without the virtualization feature, my Lenovo G50-45 looses lot of his value.

 

If there is no way to enable the virtualization feature on some models of this laptop named "Lenovo G50-45", I think that users should be informed about this fact: for me this is a big problem.

 

Perhaps upgrading BIOS could help me to enable the virtualization feature at BIOS level ?

 

Thank you

 

$ cat /proc/cpuinfo| egrep "svm"
flags        : fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush mmx fxsr sse sse2 ht syscall nx mmxext fxsr_opt pdpe1gb rdtscp lm constant_tsc nonstop_tsc extd_apicid aperfmperf eagerfpu pni pclmulqdq monitor ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 movbe popcnt aes xsave avx f16c rdrand lahf_lm cmp_legacy svm extapic cr8_legacy abm sse4a misalignsse 3dnowprefetch osvw ibs skinit wdt topoext perfctr_nb arat cpb xsaveopt hw_pstate npt lbrv svm_lock nrip_save tsc_scale flushbyasid decodeassists pausefilter pfthreshold bmi1

 

$ dmesg | grep kvm
[    7.511086] kvm: disabled by bios

 

20140920_224354_little.jpg

 

 

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-09-26, 7:46 AM

I have the same problem  and I think is not fair from Lenovo to limit the pertformance of the CPU without mentioning that.

The main reason (90%), when I bought this laptop, was the posibility of virtualization.

I hope a moderator will give us a good answer. I really need this feature I thought I have.

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-09-26, 12:48 PM

I have emailed the CEO.  Considering one of their claims is that they are big on "Trust and Integrity", and the fact that the information is NOWHERE in the documentation, box, or at the Retailer before purchase, it seems like a bait and switch scam... which kind of goes against the idea of "Trust and Integrity".  I would be willing to bet some idiot in upper management decided to "maximize profit by pushing customers into a higher end laptop" (read more expensive) without considering the fact that people would be pissed off when they realized they got duped.  If I don't have a successful resolution to this problem (read as: fixed BIOS) then I will recommend to my employer (a Fortune 500 company who is looking to purchase around 5000 units for one branch) to look elsewhere as the brand Lenovo cannot be trusted, nor does the company have Integrity.

 

I sincerely hope that is not what this comes to because asside from the fact that Virtulization is disabled (for no reason), the only other issue I have is the 10bit display instead of the industry standard 16bit (primarily visible in games and video due to the necessity of fine shading which is not present in this display).  The display I can forgive as this is a value laptop and the 16bit display is more expensive to put in, however, Virtulization is already built in to the APU and as such costs NOTHING to enable and in fact cost more to disable it as that required customization of the BIOS from Lenovo which tells me they have actively tried to screw their customers including me.  So, If they don't resolve this (very soon), Lenovo is going to loose a very big sale, not to mention a repeat customer as I will never purchase or recommend a Lenovo product ever.

 

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-05, 10:47 AM

Hi, i'm in the same situation, Without a fix or a workaround to enable svm ( virutalization ) extensions i'm unable to work.

I'm a Dev/Sys op, I buyed g50-45 laptop to emulate the amd virtualization instead of the intel one to check if our product has problem. Indeed, i need to virtualize many 64-bit guest os ... and without the svm extension, virtualbox and kvm can't ...

 

Without it, it remains a beautifull laptop that i can't use to work ...and i'll ask a refound ( i buyed 2 week ago )

 

I hope that a Lenovo employer will answer to us, and i'll send an email too. Because without the svm, i want to have a refund or a lenovo laptop with svm enabled ... lenovo is a great company, but i need the svm enabled :)

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-05, 11:54 AM

Unfortunatly I don't think Lenovo cares about it's customers.  I have even contacted the CEO of the company and had no response whatsoever.  Lenovo is supposed to hold "Trust and Integrity" in high regard.  I don't think they know what those words mean as the fact that virtulization is disabled is nowhere in the advertisement, on the box, on the website, or at the store.  Only after you try to use it and find out that it is disabled (and have no access to enable it in the BIOS) do you discover the truth.  That is pretty much the opposite of "Trust and Integrity".   Typical.

 

I will never purchase another Lenovo product again in my life, and I will also File a complaint with the BBB as well.

 

 

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-11, 11:31 AM

It would be interesting to know if a bios upgrade could re-enable the virtualization option.

 

Has someone tried to upgrade the bios ?

 

I use only linux so it's difficult for me to updgrade the bios (the program requires Windows).

 

This is the link for the BIOS updater for Windows:

http://support.lenovo.com/us/en/products/laptops-and-netbooks/lenovo-g-series-laptops/g50-45-notebook-lenovo/downloads/DS100823

 

If someone tries it, please let us know if the virtualization option is present in the new BIOS.

 

Thanks, bye.

 

 

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-11, 15:10 PM
I think that a bios change could enable the virt istruction that seems disabled. Currently i can't use guest virtual images based on 64bit architecture.
The cpu support vm istructions ...
I'm waiting to have a response from anyone ... maybe we must start up a campaign to public this behaviour of lenovo?
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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-11, 17:44 PM

A BIOS upgrade only upgrades the software.  It does not change BIOS settings (including virtualization).  I am in communication with someone at Lenovo.  I will let you all know the resolution (if any).

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-16, 20:25 PM

Dear Mr d3bug, what you say could be partially true ... BUT
I think and i'm pretty sure that a bios update could enable the chance to enable the svm flag on memory area stored in the bios that is currently disabled.

The CPU has that feature so it has in hardware: svm is supported by hardware but disabled in bios, that's all.
Now, i'll wait a little bit more for an answer here or an answer to my 1 week old email sent to support ... currently i'm not an happy lenovo customer -.-

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Re: G50-45 Virtualization

2014-10-16, 22:00 PM

As I said, it would update the software (such as enabling the hidden menus, etc), but that does not change your BIOS settings.  That is up to the user once they have the OPTION to do so.

 

I have been in communication with someone at Lenovo in relation to my BBB Complaint.  The response I received was less than acceptable... Here is the response I received:

 

"I appreciated your feedback during our last conversation and approached our engineering team as committed.  I was advised the machine you purchased is operating as designed.  The virtualization feature is not included with your machine's configuration."

 

It is the response I expectected... which boils down to "ha ha... we got your money - too bad".  Lenovo is supposed to pride itself on "Trust and Integrity".  It is apparent from this response that they have none of either.  The artificial limitation imposed by the engineering team was not indicated on the website, the store where purchased, or on the box or in the manual.  As such, Lenovo prides itself on the bait and switch scam.  Not only will I never purchase another Lenovo product, but I will do my best to make sure nobody else gets fooled by them in the future.

 

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2014-10-16, 22:34 PM

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2014-10-21, 18:06 PM
So, we can't have a response from lenovo staff , we can't solve this issue without hacking the bios ... this is The lenovo decision?
I'm still waiting an answer from the lenovo support.
I think that this vendor lock that is NOT DECLARED is unfair.
I can't stand this without doing nothing, as customer: I'm pretty angry.
I know that you don't care about that!
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2014-10-21, 11:16 AM

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2014-10-22, 13:28 PM

The moderator that has it out for me may ban me soon, so... Hopefully, you have the answers you need (That Lenovo lies and scams it's customers).  Hopefully you get this post before it is deleted as Lenovo likes to censor it's customers as well.

 

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