11-23-2013 06:26 AM - edited 11-23-2013 06:27 AM
Thanks for the reply, Neokenchi, but I'm afraid it hasn't made any difference. (been on holiday, hence my delayed response)
Regardless of what program's open, if I press the F4 key with or without holding the Fn key first, the program closes.
Maybe I'm not using SharpKeys correctly? This is what I've entered, then re-booted. I then tried changing both of the "From" keys listed to the "Function: F4", but it still made no difference.
11-25-2013 12:42 PM
If you have Hotkey Mode ON, change Sharpkeys to this value and it should function like a regular F4 key.
11-25-2013 03:27 PM
Thank you for the suggestion, Neokenchi, but it doesn't work.
I do not want Hotkey mode ON as I want to use a single key to access all the "proper" Function key functions as I am used to using them as shortcuts in programs, albeit infrequently. However, I did go back into the BIOS to enable HotKey mode again, and changed the Sharpkeys to match your screenshot, but pressing the F4 key in both Excel and Adobe Acrobat still closed the programs. Pressing the "Fn" key and the F4 key together also still closed both programs.
I am soooooo keen to restore normal function to this particular key as I've accidentally caught it when going for adjacent keys and closed several programs by accident, resulting in decidedly unwanted results and lost work as well as sheer annoyance. This is, to me, a major design flaw of the computer (along with sticking the microphone in the wrist rest!) which is spoiling an otherwise really good laptop.
Your help is much appreciated.
11-28-2013 07:59 AM
Ideally, if you have a keyboard layout like the image below, pressing F4 will function as a regular F4 key and pressing Fn+F4 should close the current active window. However, if you enable Hotkey Mode in the BIOS, these functions will be interchanged (pressing F4 will close the current active Window and pressing Fn+F4 will function as a regular F4 key).
If you observe that regular F4 key doesn't with Hotkey Mode disabed, try to boot into the BIOS and press F9 to reset default settings and then press F10 to save and exit. If this doesn't fix it, I recommend you contact lenovo support as a BIOS reflash might be necessary.
11-29-2013 04:58 AM
11-30-2013 11:47 AM - edited 11-30-2013 11:47 AM
Unfortunately I had to do something with it for my work and I had to buy an external USB keyboard... Shame on you, Lenovo!
12-11-2013 04:49 AM
I could not replace the existing F4 (close application) whatever I tried to do.
The only practicable solution I found, was with the help of "SharpKeys" to replace the key "Ins" (="Einfg") by F4.
We have the key "Ins" two times on the keyboard 1 right of F12 and 1 on the numeric "0".
Furthermore I never needed "Insert" (what means overwrite) - I am faster to delete what is to be overwritten.
When you replace "Ins" by "F4" you will have a perfect "F4" functionality by pressing "Ins".
Pressing "Ins" you will have:
- go to adress in Explorer and in Internet Explorer
- functionality in Adobe Reader
- functionality in Excel or Works Calculation
- "Ctrl"+"Ins" = "Ctrl"+"F4" = Close Window
- "Alt"+"Ins" = "Alt"+"F4" = Close Application
At any time you can get back to the original solution simply by deleting the line in "SharpKeys".
Possible you might prefer the "sharpkeys2.zip" what is the version without any installation. You have full funktionality also with this mobile version.
12-11-2013 05:10 PM - edited 12-11-2013 05:35 PM
Roitner, you're a genius!
Whilst I still wish Lenovo would have stuck with the traditional key functions, your solution works for me and I can now do what I want to do without having to faff around. Thank you so much. And your detailed description and instructions are really helpful and much appreciated, too.
Any idea on how to disable the original F4 ("Close application") key? It's so easy to catch it in error when going for F3 or F5, and suddenly find the program's closed.
I'm a much happier Froggy now! Thanks again
I've just answered my own query
I've gone back into SmartKeys and found that if I re-map the F4 key to "Turn key off", then it disables the key regardless of whether the "Fn" key is used or not, so I can definitely not close things by accident. I still have the "close application" functionality via your clever solution ("Alt"+"Insert"), though, so I'm definitly a very happy bunny now! Thank you
12-13-2013 02:19 AM
Froggy thank you for the compliments. I enjoyed your reply very much.
Would be nice if we can find a solution to replace the stupid Lenovo Close-Button by the correct F4.
But have the experience that Lenovo is worst in Customer Service (they do have an inferior partner in Germany) they mostly do not answer. And when they answer, the answer is really stupid. You can see immediately that they even don't understand their own products. Lenovo does not have a good quality either. Have got an S10-2 Netbook 3 years ago. The keys do have such a bad quality - the print goes away so fast, that you can't follow. The web-cam on the S10-2 has the wrong position, so that it shows your chest instead of the face. They have not been able to repair this in their repair center.
Lenovo even is not able to describe their downloads on the support site. They leave you alone as much as possible.
Anyway I was very happy to find this site. It lead me to the idea to use the Insert-Key instead of F4.
Thank you for the additional idea to disable the Close-Key.