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11-08-2010

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-29, 17:05 PM
Argh, you Americans with your cheap warranty options!

For you guys a 3-year warranty extension is 99 dollars.
For us up North, we've got to pay 200 bucks more for the same level of service (3-year depot warranty is 209).

Also:

- The two offers differ only by 2 vs. 4 GB RAM which is $130 (OK, the win7 Version is different as well...)
... since the RAM that Lenovo installs is so ridiculously marked up that for less than 80 bucks you could max out the RAM in that machine. DDR3's cheap right now- two 4 GB sticks would run you 80 bucks.

- They give an initial discount of over 30%
Since it's such a deal, I guess. Why don't they just change the site prices to reflect the fact that these 'discounts' are always there?

Oh wait- good marketing, I guess: since those who used the site before have bought T60's that cost 2200 dollars cold.

- the T420s is cheaper (initially) than the T410s?
Funny- that's the same as the standard T series ($ of T410 initial > $ of T420 initial) but the lack of coupon codes isn't exactly conducive to me picking up a T420.

I'd rather grab a tricked-out T410 for $1000 than a T420 and still have cash left over for an 80+ GB SSD and at least a 2GB RAM upgrade (since the T410 is still 16:10 and for certain doesn't have very many CPU whine problems compared to the 510.)
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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-29, 23:53 PM

Hello guys, I'm new to the community but have been watching this thread for a long time.

 

I've researched almost every laptop line in the States and T420s turns out to be the best choice in terms of having portability and performance at the same time.

 

Yes, t420s is released today BUT the discrete version is not yet.

IMO, t420s available now is nothing good but the weight. (no i7 upgrade nor discrete graphic card)

 

I really need better cpu and discrete graphic card since they are needed to run my architectural applications.

So I contacted lenovo via online chat and the agent said the projected date for the discrete version is Apr 19.

 

Argh...3 more weeks!

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-30, 6:19 AM

 


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Hey Q-Ball, thanks for the alert!

But, what? My first impressions:
- The two offers differ only by 2 vs. 4 GB RAM which is $130 (OK, the win7 Version is different as well...)
- Together with the free 4GB upgrade (and a larger HDD) as advertised on the page, this is pretty ridiculous
- They give an initial discount of over 30%
- the T420s is cheaper (initially) than the T410s?

what the...?

best
Hecke

 

The free 4GB/HDD upgrades are only on the T410/T510/x201/x201 Tablet/W510, not on any of the new Sandy Bridge systems.

 

The upgraded model is priced about right. The Windows 7 upgrade from Home Premium to Professional is around $80 on Amazon, so you're paying $50 for 2GB of RAM which is high but not out of line with typical manufacturer RAM prices. Obviously you can do better if you're willing to do the Windows 7 upgrade yourself and buy RAM separately, but you're only going to end up saving $25.

 

Lenovo always has huge discounts off of list price even for new machines. My understanding is that this is primarily because some large business customers demand that they get a huge discount on everything (like 40%) so Lenovo marks up the list prices and then can offer huge percentage discounts to these customers. Small businesses get decent (but not quite as good) deals because they either buy a TopSeller model (which is heavily discounted) or get the big configure to order (CTO) web discount.

 

This is actually a major factor why I buy Lenovo rather than HP. HP has similarly rediculous list prices on their business machines (EliteBook) and they similarly have pre-configured models that are heavily discounted (HP calls ithem  "Smart Buys"). The problem is that HP, unlike Lenovo, doesn't offer any sort of discount on CTO machines, which means that a CTO EliteBook is often 30% more expensive (or worse) than a similarly configured ThinkPad. The only way around this is to buy an HP consumer machine (comparable to IdeaPad) or the lower-end ProBook (similar to the ThinkPad SL series), neither of which are as well built or as fully-featured as a T-series ThinkPad. 

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-30, 10:16 AM

Someone mentioned: I'd rather buy a tricked out 410 than a 420...

 

I would like advice. I'd like to buy either of those machines. I'm a regular business user with high graphics needs (CAD, google earth, ArcGIS). Which will give me better performance: the 420 (do they all have Sandy Bridge?) with Integrated Graphics or the 410 upgraded to 8Gb of RAM? My budget is right around the $1K mark, and I'm not sure how to get the best performance/cost...

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-30, 16:37 PM

Can anyone tell me what resolutions for external monitors a T420s can output to?

 

I know the new Sandy Bridge CPU's have integrated graphics but there's not much info about what resolutions that can drive. I'm interested in outputing to a 2560x1440 through displayport.

 

I cannot find this information anywhere on Lenovo's site. I also checked the Support & Downloads section for the User Guide and it is not published there yet.

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-30, 16:44 PM

Never mind, I found a link to the updated tabook.pdf document which answers that question:

 

Maximum external resolution: 2560x1600 (DisplayPort)@60Hz;

 

If anyone has actually tested this I would appreciate hearing their results. I have a Dell E6500 now which also claims to be able to run at that resolution but the screen jitters every now and then. I'm told Intel sometimes exagerates their capabilities with regard to powering external monitors...

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-30, 16:46 PM

 


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Can anyone tell me what resolutions for external monitors a T420s can output to?

 

I know the new Sandy Bridge CPU's have integrated graphics but there's not much info about what resolutions that can drive. I'm interested in outputing to a 2560x1440 through displayport.

 

I cannot find this information anywhere on Lenovo's site. I also checked the Support & Downloads section for the User Guide and it is not published there yet.


 

The information is listed in the tabook (http://www.lenovo.com/psref/pdf/tabook.pdf).

 

For both Optimus and Intel-only models, the maximum supported external resolutions are:

 

2560x1600 (DisplayPort)@60Hz; 2048x1536 (VGA)@75Hz; 1920x1200@60Hz (single-link DVI-D via cable 45J7915).

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-03-30, 19:34 PM
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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-04-02, 8:34 AM

 


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Someone mentioned: I'd rather buy a tricked out 410 than a 420...

 

I would like advice. I'd like to buy either of those machines. I'm a regular business user with high graphics needs (CAD, google earth, ArcGIS). Which will give me better performance: the 420 (do they all have Sandy Bridge?) with Integrated Graphics or the 410 upgraded to 8Gb of RAM? My budget is right around the $1K mark, and I'm not sure how to get the best performance/cost...


 

All of the T420/T420s/T520/W520/X220 models have Sandy Bridge CPUs.

 

Absolutely get the T420. I would recommend sticking to the base 2GB option and upgrading the memory on your own. It's not hard to do and you can get 8GB of DDR3 SO-DIMM memory for around $80 online. Sometimes Lenovo has good memory upgrade prices but right now they're way high.

 

The integrated Intel HD Graphics 3000 in the T420 are about 3x faster than the integrated graphics in the T410, and they're still about 1.5x as fast as the Quadro NVS 3100M dedicated graphics in the T410. The discrete Quadro NVS 4200M graphics option in the T420 is around 1.5x as fast as the Intel HD Graphics 3000 integrated option.

 

The T420 wins on CPU performance, graphics performance, weight, thickness, and battery life. Everyone complains about the new 16:9 displays but the reality is that the higher-resolution HD+ display has the same vertical resolution and more horizontal resolution than the T410's 16:10 display.

 

 

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Re: T420S? can't wait for it? when?!

2011-05-13, 6:49 AM
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