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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-01-24, 21:01 PM

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As a cautionary note to others reading this thread:  the image in the post above is NOT the dongle that's compatible with the X280.

 


I was sure that this adapter from the X1 of 2017 is logically to be used for the X280 as well.

I investigated and you're right, the adapter ports are new! This means the adapters we keep for the X1 are worthless, and we should buy completely new spare ones wasting even more money. Lenovo is trying to be Apple harder than I thought :\

 

 

This is the port on the X1 Carbon 2017

 

This is the port on the X280 2018

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-01-24, 22:10 PM

Speculation on my part but I'd guess that the proprietary Ethernet connector was changed for compatibility with the side dock.

 

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-09, 12:03 PM

I have some questions, because I am confused right now.

OP writes that there are 16GB ROM soldered on the laptop and 1 DIMM. That means the laptop is capable to hold 32GB RAM. But there is no option for 32GB RAM in the configurator!

 

Also, it looks like there is no accidental damage warranty. Why?

 

As a side note, the fact that RJ45 is removed is awful. No WiFi cannot replace Gbit network and even if your WiFi is fast enough, the speed is the total speed and it's not full dublex...

Finally, I hate having all those ports at the sides of the laptop. Ports should be at the back.

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-09, 15:32 PM

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I have some questions, because I am confused right now.

OP writes that there are 16GB ROM soldered on the laptop and 1 DIMM. That means the laptop is capable to hold 32GB RAM. But there is no option for 32GB RAM in the configurator!

...

As a side note, the fact that RJ45 is removed is awful.

...


[edit] For the record, the OP did not write that there was both soldered RAM and a socket.

 

My pre-production unit has 16GB of RAM soldered to the planar.  There is no RAM socket.  Per the base spec the possible options (which may vary with region or time) are "4GB, 8GB, or 16GB / 2400MHz DDR4 / soldered to systemboard, no sockets".

 

http://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20X280/ThinkPad_X280_Platform_Specifications.pdf

 

Ethernet is still there but uses a proprietary connector to keept the laptop thin - and allow it to mate with the side dock.  One can use wired Ethernet via Lenovo's passive dongle or USB-C or 3.0 active adapter/dongle.

 

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-09, 16:57 PM

The maintenance manual has been posted and it shows no DIMM slot.

 

https://download.lenovo.com/pccbbs/mobiles_pdf/tp_x280_hmm_en.pdf

 


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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-10, 12:08 PM

No, ethernet is NOT there. There is a propriatery port that requires  an adapter. Lenovo, I have news for you. I will NOT buy any adapter from you, I will use a USB3-Ethernet hub.

 

I am sorry but X280 is not a business laptop. This is a toy laptop. There is no exuse for the lack of RJ45. They could use an RJ45 with a "port" like so many other laptops do.

And please don't say about the dock. The same way you add the propriatry male adapter in the dock, you add a standard RJ45.

 

Let's be honest. Everyone think that following the Apple's example is good. No it's not. I need a small, powerfull, bussiness laptop. That means standard ports, lightweight, battery life, 2 DIMM slots. Anything else is not a business laptop.

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-11, 5:36 AM

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I am sorry but X280 is not a business laptop. This is a toy laptop.


Times change. It may not suit your business purpose, but it will suit many contemporary business users.

 

Hardly any of the new business offices I have seen recently have wired ethernet connectivity at hot desks/workstations..



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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-11, 10:01 AM

There are 2 consequences for X280 missing the network port.

 

1. Most managers in corporates are doing video conference meetings from meeting rooms and for flawless HD quality connect their laptops to the network cable. Not having this port means relying on the unreliable Wi-Fi network.

2. Reliability - now you can't have RJ45 as backup to the Wireless network card in case it dies\malfunctiones\no Wi-Fi around where they going with their laptops, or the adapter is not around(people often forget\loose these).

 

Seems Lenovo don't care why people buy business laptops anymore and why we stayed with them so far.

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-11, 12:24 PM

I am a consultant. Meaning, I visit a LOT of companies and of diffrent size/industries. 95% have WiFi. 100% din't have WiFi in the DataCenters. 95% they don't allow access fro WiFi to Production Servers. So, yes, RJ45 IS important.

THe X280 is supposed to be a business laptop. But not anymore.

I will think about the T480S which ticks most of my boxes (around 1.3Kg, 2DIMMs, etc. But it's a complete dissaster in terms of ports placement. I mean who on earth thinks that it's OK to have all those ports on the left hand side?

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Re: ThinkPad X280: First Look

2018-02-11, 19:55 PM

The X280 PSREF current MT-M list and base specification are now available, as are driver downloads and documentation via the support page:

 

http://psref.lenovo.com/Product/ThinkPad/ThinkPad_X280

 

http://psref.lenovo.com/syspool/Sys/PDF/ThinkPad/ThinkPad%20X280/ThinkPad_X280_Platform_Specifications.pdf

 

X280 (Type 20KF, 20KE) Laptop (ThinkPad)

 

(English) User Guide - ThinkPad X280

 

(English) Hardware Maintenance Manual (HMM) - ThinkPad X280

 

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