10-13-2019 12:28 AM
What do you even mean with "not working"? Did you try them or what?
10-13-2019 02:03 PM - edited 10-13-2019 02:07 PM
You then carefully read a topic? I already wrote earlier that 9560 from another of my laptop was not detected in my S340.
Based on the available data on the 100% working of 9260 in T495 and T495s and on the basis of the feedback from another S340-15API buyer on the same forum that 9260 was not detected in his S340, I come to the logical conclusion that the problem is exclusively in the whitelist from Lenovo. So, in the direct opposition Lenovo's marketers, for buyers of the cheap S340 series with Ryzens, so that they could not even try install high-quality components from Intel into a cheap series with AMD hardware. Everything is clear and clear. And it's disgusting...
10-14-2019 01:25 AM - edited 10-14-2019 01:32 AM
Considering thee system will fail to boot entirely with the whitelisting in action, I really doubt that it is that. My device is mid-end at best and it still works, so the chances that you got a CNVi card or a defective one are not that low. You should have gone with a 9260 that isn't a CNVi module. I would recommend reading Intels link to that
Especially the part that reads "These CRFs can only be used in certain Intel CPU/Chipset systems that are designed for it". Guess what, the 9560 is listed. Just because it works everywhere else doesn't mean it works in your laptop. And I am certain that it has nothing to do with a whitelist, because the system would fail entirely after it detected an unsupported card. Just not working is typical for a CNVi module.
10-14-2019 12:21 PM - edited 10-14-2019 12:32 PM
so the chances that you got a CNVi card or a defective one are not that low.
9560NGW perfectly work in my another laptop and was installed there at the factory.
These Intel® Wireless Adapters are Kev modules that support Intel® Integrated Connectivity:
Intel® Wi-Fi 6 AX201
Intel® Wireless AC 9560
Intel® Wireless-AC 9462
Intel® Wireless-AC 9461
These CRFs may only be used with certain Intel processors / chipset on systems / motherboards designed specifically for this purpose.
Intel 9462NGW declared Lenovo as compatible with S340-15API (81NCxxxxxx).
In fact, Intel is lying by writing such a text, at your link. I would have understood if the following had been written there - fully autonomous modules can work both in CNVi mode and without it, but at the end of this text from Intel the possibility of working 9462 on a non-Intel platform is denied! And this is immediately refuted by the availability of workable modules with the same name in S340 (9462NGW) and T495 (s) (9260NGW).
How do they work there, if they are only in the CNVi variant? Therefore, the cited text is nonsense or pulled out of some context.
And the presence of 9260 and 9560 modules on aliexpress without CNVI support refutes this Intel claim and your false reference.
You are constantly writing what are the wrong assumptions that should already be excluded by you based on already existing data from me in this discussion.
In addition to the whitelist, there are no more variants to left. Lenovo representatives do not enter into the discussion, which is also characteristic. And users continue to suffer with defective architectural network cards from Atheros and Realtek (2x2), despite the fact that the better decisions from Intel - 9260NGW, 9560NGW and AX200 are 100% compatible with AMD motherboards, which proves by worked 9462NGW in the S340-15API list of compability and that proves by 9260NGW used in T495 and T495s, which exclude any presence of CNVi parts on AMD hardware and your link does not prove anything other than obvious delusions from Intel.
This is the second time I’m asking a key question - how to distinguish "A Companion RF (KEV) module in M. 2 form factor (2230 and 1216 soldered)" that works only with CNVi part of Intel chipsets and a completely autonomous solution that works on any chipsets and Intel and AMD, what follows from the presence of 9462NGW in the compatibility list S340-15API?
Where can I see the differences between 9462NGW in the CNVI version and without it, as on photo from Lenovo support site, a fully-fledged solution?
10-15-2019 03:23 PM
10-16-2019 12:01 AM - edited 10-16-2019 12:02 AM
To assume that you are correct is pretty arrogant, if you ask me. The support will not answer to such requests, and it is pretty naive to expect answers to such know-it-all questions. Take the AX200 or 9260 because there are no CNVi versions of these. CNVi are the 9461, 9462, 9560 and AX201. But I'm with you about the bad Realtek WiFi adapters, these are basically good for nothing and cause more trouble than one might expect.
10-16-2019 04:39 AM
Take the AX200 or 9260 because there are no CNVi versions of these. CNVi are the 9461, 9462, 9560 and AX201.
10-16-2019 05:58 AM
It is listed as "equivalent", not "compatible". These are two different things. That card is listed because it might work. You can always look up the FRU# and buy that instead, although that will be fairly pricy. For exactly that reason I bought the AX200 instead of the 9462, because that was also on my buyers list. What I would also recommend to you is the 8265, because that is known-good and reliable.
10-16-2019 06:16 AM - edited 10-16-2019 06:31 AM
It is listed as "equivalent", not "compatible".
It is clearly and clearly written as an official substitution as defined by “substitute” on Lenovo's website. substitute equal compatible is 100%. At least in the version wlan adapters indicated on the lenovo's site, for which there are 5 photos with all numbers and articles, including the article of Lenovo, not Intel.
What I would also recommend to you is the 8265, because that is known-good and reliable.
I will buy nothing and waste my money until I get an official answer from Lenovo, which models and in which version wlan adapters from Intel will work in my laptop and, in general, in the 81NCxxxxxx series. Because the goal of my publication is to pay attention to inadequate technical support from Lenovo and ensure not only yourself, but also all other customers a painless, financially and loss of personal time, replacement of the wlan adater with normal 2x2 from Intel for versions with Ryzen. Because the price of these decisions is cheap. And as the situation with the T495 (s) showed, Lenovo had no technical problem and problem in terms of the cost of putting even the AX200 there at once, not even the 9260NGW as in the T series. AX200 costs $15 in stores, QCA9377 retail price is $7-10.
10-16-2019 07:24 AM
You do realise that you will never get an answer from Lenovo since you are not having a ThinkPad device? ThinkPads are known to be officially upgradeable. The WiFi adapter is not even listed as CRU so it is not upgradeable as per Lenovos terms. What makes you think that this has anything to do with bad customer support? It isn't. You wouldn't get responses from any manufacturer regarding unofficial upgrades.