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How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-06, 9:51 AM
Hi everyone,

I own lenovo ideapad Y510-7758-42Q having existing hard disk as Hitachi 160 GB. I am a system administrator and so i require multiple O.S and large amount of data of course. So, I want to know how I can extend my existing hard disk capacity to 250 GB or higher or add another Hard Disk alongwith present disk.

Any suggetion will be highly appreciated.

Lalan.
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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-06, 21:22 PM
@LALAN :)

Hello Lalan, does the following sound right?

Lenovo 3000 Y510 7758 42Q Notebook PC is powered by1.66 GHz Intel Core 2 Duo Processor T5450 and it features, 15.4-inch WXGA TFT display, 5-in-1 media card reader, integrated 1.3 megapixel camera, integrated Bluetooth with EDR connection, Built-in TV Tuner and integrated Wi-Fi 802.11a/b/g LAN connection.

Which is suppose to come with the 120-GB Serial-ATA 5400 rpm hard disk, right?

If Lenovo doesn't consider the internal hard drive to require their certification, meaning Lenovo hasn't burned an ID into the HDD firmware that is checked by the machine BIOS to bless it during the boot process, then the only other requirement is to insure your Lenovo Y510 specific model actually does support the 48 bit logical block addressing which allows for hard drives above 160GB to be used.

That said, you have lots of choices to pick from. Are you mostly interested in capacity or performance here?

If performance, consider SATA-II 3.0 Gb/s such as the Western Digital Scorpio WD3200BEVT (320GiB 3.0Gb/s) or the Hitachi Travelstar 5K320 HTS543232L9A300 (320GiB 3.0Gb/s).

If for memory capacity, then Hitachi 5K500 (500GiB), which is 3mm thicker than your industry-standard 9.5mm thick 2.5-inch drive. So if this fits in the Lenovo Y510 you got, great, right? By the way, the E5K500 will likely cost a bit more, it's the enterprise drive with bulk data encryption and is rated for 24/7 access.

Can anyone confirm that the larger 3mm 5K500 or E5K500 fits in the Lenovo Y510 IdeaPad?

I see Asus, is using 500GiB HDD in their M50 and M70 laptops.

Message Edited by Fulong on 06-06-2008 02:27 PM
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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-07, 4:01 AM
Hi dear Fulong,

thanks for your valuable suggession...
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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-07, 7:24 AM
Fulong, the fail about using only wiki and other educational sites as info source is that a man must use his own head and not only reffer to some web-resource.
Y510 is not a Lenovo-3000 series notebook.
No HDD-DMI protection used - you can use any hard you like.
48bit adressing is used for 3-4 years or even earlier. No way up-to-day HDD's don't know what it is.
Transfer speed of SATA-2 is always 3 GBps, that doesn't mean that different HDDs using same interface are same speed at work.

LALAN, if you need more speed, use 7200-rpm HDDs, if you need more space - use standart-size 2,5" HDDs. As far as I remember there's no space for additional 3 mm inside. This information is not exact, you'd better either check that by yourself or wait until someone that performed such upgrade says exectly.
But in my humble opinion if you need more space, you just buy external HDD - cheap, fast and great amount of space.

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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-07, 14:38 PM
Hi Skripatch,

You gave answer exactly for what i looked for..giving thankx will not be appropriate for u ;  I think you deserve more than that..

Best Wishes........
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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-07, 20:46 PM
@Skripatch :)

Skripatch, that's why I had asked, "does the following (information) sound right?" when asking Lalan for clarification. No need to roll over an ant hill, and begin shouting, okay?

And what "failing" is there in using a Wiki? Which wasn't the case here at all, as I only needed to check with a Lenovo retailer online that sells the exact same wording (Y510-7758-42Q) provided by Lalan.

See for yourself:
here


Here's another
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So I guess your saying everyone else doesn't know what their selling? Perhaps, but that's why I wanted to check with Lalan for clarification. Let me ask, are you suggesting that you wouldn't have ask Lalan in this situation? It just seems a bit unfair to me, for taking my time and effort to be of help, as it shouldn't be wrong to ask Lalan if the information was correct, right?

Moving on...

You did say, "48bit addressing is used for 3-4 years", but on every computer? If NOT it's good to know what to check for, right? As I can assure you here in China, this isn't the case for everyone purchasing a mobile computer. Would you claim everyone purchasing a computer in Russia will e able to use a 160GiB+ larger capacity HDD as well? I'm willing to bet that even in the U.S. this isn't always the case too, right? There is no standard among all the manufactures of the world that they all come to the same agreement to build the same hardware configurations from what I see in the marketplace. Even hardware drivers are a major issue and pain for everyone, just like with Microsoft Vista 32bit and 64bit editions.

So just how would Lenovo customers going to know before their purchase of a mobile computer that there is "No HDD-DMI protection used"? Assuming here Lalan's PC model is correctly identified? Does Lenovo advertises this fact?

The part about the 3mm comes directly from Hitachi own website:
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@Lalan :)

Those two "performance" hard drives I posted are indeed 7200RPM and if there is NO DMI involved and your mainboard supports the 48bit logical block addressing, this could be a solution that you can consider. I am already using the Western Digital Scorpio WD3200BEVT, and I honestly am happy with it because it's done the best job, fast, reliable, quiet and efficient on power.

Also in order to use the faster transfer speeds of a theoretically 3Gb/s transfer with SATA-IO (same as SATA II" or "SATA2) the mainboard must support it. For you information, a SATA data cable rated for 1.5 Gbit/s will handle current second-generation SATA 3.0 Gbit/s drives without any loss of sustained and burst data transfer performance.

Lalan, be aware, if AHCI is not enabled by the motherboard and chipset, SATA controllers typically operate in "IDE emulation" mode which does not allow features of devices to be accessed that are not supported by the ATA/IDE standard. The standard interface for SATA controllers is Advanced Host Controller Interface (AHCI), which allows advanced features of SATA such as hot plug and Native Command Queuing.

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Does anyone know for sure, if the Hitachi E5K500 500 GiB HDD will be able to be used in Lalan's PC?

Since the Lenovo Y510 IdeaPad does use DMI, will Lenovo be offering their Y510 customers a certified and supported 500GiB HDD anytime soon?

Let's remember, these forums are NOT "professional" as in paid solutions, their just suggestions from a "public" forum, in which everyone is trying to be of help.
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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-07, 22:24 PM
Fulong, the thing I'm qurious about is fact, that you can't use logic. You bring much encyclopedic information but do not make any conclusion. That's what I mean as fail.
For example: 48bit adressing is not a fresh thing, every related hardware manufactured after 2005 sure supports it. No need to beware of this.
Or, another one: "the mainboard must support it"... Sure Y510 support it! They're built on i945 and i965 family chipsets and that means SATA2 onboard! You give useless encyclopedia information and also flood threads with it, while a person just needs a short answer. If a person needs better answer he will ask for explanation. If you are not agree with another person's answer - claim your own, but do not forget to use not only encyclopedia but logics also.

The main idea - help shorter, very hard to read through tons of letters with no news and logic conclusions inside.
And by the way, discussion is over. Why is the giant post containing no arguments contra mine version is here? Flame it is called, just as mine this post is. Once and for all these words are said for you here in this way. No answers to your flood afterwards. Only on technical critics. See you around.
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Re: How to add Extra Hard Disk

2008-06-08, 2:17 AM
Okay there is no point arguing here, skripatch is a very good guru, he helps almost everyone in the Lenovo 3000 laptop section. While you should control your behaviour and especially how you word your reply to other members of this forum, and please don't always bring China into arguments all the time, no one is talking about China in this thread.
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