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buker
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Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Hi,

I recently have bought SSD disk Corsair F160 to my laptop Y530. Unfortunately I discovered that BIOS can't detect disk in AHCI mode. In IDE mode I can boot system, but disk performance is significant lower. I'm not only person who have this problem. I found this thread - http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?92006-Vertex-2E-120GB-Lenovo-Y530 where situation is very similar. I suppose problem is with SSD disk with SATAII interface. Is there any patch to BIOS, which solve this problem or is there any chance to this patch will be release?

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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Hi

 

Welcome To Lenovo Community

 

Please try installing AHCI drivers during windows 7 installation

 First Set SATA mode to AHCI under Bios

http://download.lenovo.com/UserFiles/Driver/en/Downloads%20and%20Drivers/Y530/win%207/IN1SRM16WW5.ex...

 1. Double-click the driver package to extract it to your hard drive.

The default location is C:\Drivers\Intel AHCI Driver.

2. Copy the files to a floppy disk, then insert the floppy disk to a floppy drive (attach to the notebook).

3. Insert Windows 7 32bit install Disc into ODD and then power on system (Press F12 to select boot from ODD).

4. After booting from the ODD, press F6 when it is requested by Windows 7 32bit installation utility.

5. Follow the instruction in the screen to install the SATA AHCI driver in the floppy disk.

 

 

 

 

Hope This Helps

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buker
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Hi,

Unfortunatelly it doesn't work. After installation drivers I get the error: "Setup was unable to create a new system partition or locate an existing system partition ". On my PC everything is ok, so problem is with laptop.

waterjet
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

The problem buker and I are having has nothing to do with windows drivers.   The BIOS on the Y530 is unable to recognize an SSD  when set for AHCI and won't be able to until Lenovo issues a BIOS update, if they ever do (c'mon guys).  A work-around for you, buker, would be to  reset the drive interface in the BIOS setup from AHCI to IDE.  Your drive will now be found and you can install windows.  The trade-off is reduced peformance of the SSD.

Carcozep
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Do not despair, Hope may be not lost Smiley Happy 

 

I want to give my y530 one last upgrade, and the SSD is the best bet. But reading this topic ins't very encouraging for such an attempt. 

However, someone actually managed to pull it off:

http://diybbs.zol.com.cn/4/161_33678.html

 

Now, the broken english of Google Translate makes me believe that you could instal the OS on a HDD caddy, and then migrate/clone it onto the SSD and it will do the trick. His results seem to show that AHCI mode is working and the SSD drive isn't being bottlenecked. 

 

If Black Friday lends a good deal on a Marvell/LAMD/Samsung controller powered 256GB SSD, I will also try to install and come back here to report either a success or a catastrophic failure Smiley Happy 

BobK1
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Carcozep--Keep us informed.  I tried to translate the web page you linked but had no luck.

BobK1
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Success!  I installed an SSD today in my Y530 and it is working flawlessly in AHCI mode.  Here are the specs in case they might be useful for others.

 

BIOS:  AMI EFI BIOS version 10CN38WW (220)

BIOS Advanced Tab:  Advanced SATA Config set to AHCI.  Note:  It was already set to AHCI with the OEM Hitachi hard drive prior to installing the new SSD.

SSD:  Samsung 850 Pro 256GB

OS:  Fresh install of Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit

 

I didn't do anything special.  I installed the new SSD and installed Windows 7 from an installation disk.  I made no changes to BIOS.

 

Using Crystal Disk Mark, my transfer rates are in the neighborhood of 350MB/s

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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Hi all,

BobK1, thanks a lot for the info! I also installed Samsung 850 PRO ASAP 2,5" MZ-7KE512BW and it works with AHCI enabled. Together with 6GB RAM and Windows8 (8.1 not working due to processor limitations) computer gained new life. My test results in Parkdale are:
SeqWrite=162MB/s, RandomWrite=42, SeqRead=173, RandomRead=15.The original 5400rpm disk was: SeqWrite=  57MB/s, RandomWrite= 2, SeqRead=  60, RandomRead= 1.

Can anyone explain how is it even possible? I mean Y530 has SATA1 with 150MB/s max

BobK1
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Good question, raddooo.  SATA1 is 1.5Gb/s which translates to 187MB/s and a realized throughput of 150MB/s.

 

I'm using Crystal Disk Mark and my sequential read speed is 278MB/s.  That's with a 2000MB test file.  Maybe Crystal Disk Mark is buffering, caching, or estimating?

Carcozep
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Re: Lenovo Y530 and problem with SSD disk in AHCI mode

Congratulations on your success, Bobk1 and raddooo. 

 

I have suffered a bit of setback and didn't manage to grab a good offer on a Toshiba Q Series Pro 256Gb during Black Friday. I might end up buying a Crucial MX100 in the near future though and mount it. 

 

1. I am pretty sure I remember that the Y530 had a SATA-II interface. Just to be extra sure I started digging the specs of the GM45 Intel chipset[it has a ICH9M controller], and indeed, it does have SATA-II support. Hence, the speeds should be more closer to 300MB/s on sequential Read/Write. 

 

http://www.intel.fr/content/www/fr/fr/mobile-computing/mobile-gm45-intel-gs45-gl40-express-chipsets-...

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Intel_chipsets#Southbridge_9xx_and_3.2F4_Series_chipsets

 

2. AS-SSD and Anvil Storage Utilies should be used for benchmark reference. Would be curious what numbers the 850 Pro throws when it is heavily limited by the SATA-II interface AND the GM45 chipset. Which brings us to no.3

 

3. It appears that series 4 and 5 chipsets heavily impact the speeds of SSD's when it comes to small files[4k]:

http://www.storagereview.com/how_to_improve_low_ssd_performance_in_intel_series_5_chipset_environmen...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/solid-state-drives-ssds-flash-storage/513313-laptops-w-intel-series-...

 

http://forum.notebookreview.com/solid-state-drives-ssds-flash-storage/517917-how-improve-ssd-perform...

 

The downsides that come out after doing the tweaks seem to not be worth the boost in performance, but you can give them a try nonetheless. 

 

4. I have no idea why translating that page wouldn't work on your end BobK1. I've copy/pasted the link in Google Translate and set it from Chinese -> English and works just fine[albeit the broken english I've been mentioning in my older post]. It also confirmes the SATA-II interface on the Y530.

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