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Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-06-21, 20:48 PM

After seeing the attention and following the Lenovo Y480 received I couldn't resist getting the larger Y580 to see how it compares, here's my first look at that:

 

http://www.laptopreviews.com/lenovo-ideapad-y580-first-thoughts-review-2012-06

 

For those that don't want to click over to see the review, the meat of the first look review is quoted below:

 

The Lenovo IdeaPad Y580 just arrived to us today so we wanted to get some of our first thoughts out since there’s a lot of interest in this particular model due to its budget friendly price for a gaming laptop.  The Y580 we have in for review features an Intel Core i7-3610QM Quad Core processor, powerful Nvidia GTX 660M graphics, 8GB of RAM and large 1TB hard drive.  Believe it or not, the cost for all that was only $889 after discounts on Lenovo.com, an incredible price.  

 

To keep costs down we configured just the 1366 x 768 resolution HD screen instead of the Full HD 1920 x 1080 screen, that higher resolution screen will be very appealing to some but it does boost the cost by around $200.  Since games perform better in terms of fps (frames per second) on a lower resolution 1366 x 768 screen some may be happy with just the base level and savings it bags.

 

Lenovo Y580

 

First off, let’s take a look at a video we shot of the Y580 giving a tour around the laptop and some discussion of the design and features:

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-OZcJnOQsSo&feature=relmfu

 

Lenovo Y580 video tour

 

The IdeaPad Y580 is a fairly attractive notebook, it has a brush metal finish and very solid feeling design.  It’s made of a mix of plastic and metals, basically what you get is  a rigid plastic frame that’s wrapped in a thin metal layer.  The plastic is very rigid so it’s not going to creak or give way when you push down on it.  The backlit keyboard provides both a great look and extra usability in a dimly lit or dark room.  One thing you can do to help the design out of the box is peel all the stickers off, there were no less than 5 stickers on the palm rest when I got this thing – Dolby, Intel, Nvidia, Windows and Lenovo stickers, how much advertising do you need!  This isn’t a Nascar stock car or something.  Oh, you might need to have some goo be gone handy to make sure there’s no sticky residue left after removing the stickers.

 

Now onto the more important aspects of this notebook, what are the initial performance impressions?  Well, it’s fast ok.  The Nvidia GTX660M graphics are way, way faster than the Nvidia 640M LE graphics you get with the smaller 14-inch Y480 we reviewed. To get an idea for how the performance stacks up to other Y series IdeaPad’s we ran a few benchmarks, we’ll present a couple here and more in the full review.  First, let’s check out the PCMark Vantage score for the Y580:

 

pcmarkvantage

 

LaptopPCMark Vantage Score
Lenovo IdeaPad Y580 (Intel Core i7-3610QM, Nvidia GTX 660M, 8GB RAM, 5400RPM HD)9,256 PCMarks
Lenovo IdeaPad Y570  (Intel Core i7-2670QM, Nvidia 555M 1GB, 8GB RAM,5400RPM HD)8,771 PCMarks
Lenovo IdeaPad Y480 (Intel Core i7-3610QM, NVIDIA 640M LE, 8GB RAM, 5400RPM HD)8,634 PCMarks
Lenovo IdeaPad Y470p (Intel Core i5-2450m, AMD 7690M, 6GB RAM, 5400RPM HD)6,727 PCMarks

 

Not much surprise there in the PCMark Vantage results, the Y580 handily beats both the previous IdeaPad Y570 and the smaller Y480.  It’s the 3D performance where the gap really starts to widen though,

 

3dmark-vantage

 

3DMark Vantage – Measures 3D graphics performance

Laptop3DMark Vantage
Lenovo IdeaPad Y580 (Intel Core i7-3610QM, Nvidia GTX 660M, 8GB RAM, 5400RPM HD)9,305
Lenovo IdeaPad Y480 (Intel Core i7-3610QM, NVIDIA 640M LE, 8GB RAM, 5400RPM HD)5,587
HP Envy 17-3000, Intel Core i7-2670QM, AMD 7690M, 6GB RAM, 7200RPM HD6,970

 

The 3D performance of the Y480 is easily outdone by that of the Y580, the IdeaPad Y580 is a fully fledged gaming notebook while the Y480 is just a mobile machine that can be used for some medium level gaming. The one weak spot on the Y580 is certainly the storage, the hard drive on this machine is a Seagate 1TB 5400RPM spinning drive.   That’s a lot of capacity of course, but not a fast spin rate.  An SSD or mSATA SSD would really help to speed up the Y580 and provide better overall system response times, especially in regards to boot up and opening applications.  Lenovo does not offer the ability to configure an SSD at build time, but you can easily access the machine to make that upgrade aftermarket yourself.

 

The screen, as previously mentioned, is the 1366 x 768 HD version.  It’s a TN type panel, meaning viewing angles are somewhat limited.  To get an idea for the viewing angles check out these images below:

 

Y580 ScreenY580 screen tilted back
Y580 screen forwardY580 screen sideways

 

The screen is glossy which on the plus side makes the colors really kind of pop, but on the downside causes glare and reflections. The port selection is good on the Y580, here’s a quick tour around each of the sides:

 

Y580 left side

 

On the left you get a VGA out port, Ethernet RJ-45, HDMI, and two USB 3.0 ports

 

Y580 front side

 

On the front side there’s an 8-in-1 media card reader on the right side

 

IMG_0788

 

On the right side is a headphone and microphone jack, USB 3.0 port, optical drive and then finally a USB 2.0 port at the back

 

Y580 back side

 

There are no ports on the back So far the Y580 is pretty impressive, again it’s really the price to feature ratio that makes this stand out.  In my opinion if you’re looking for a gaming notebook and you don’t want to spend over $1,000 your best choices are either the Y580 or the HP dv6t-7000 Quad Edition we reviewed.  Feel free to ask questions that you’d like to see answered in the full review by posting in the comments section, expect the full review in about 2-weeks time.

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06-21-2012

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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-06-21, 23:02 PM
Thank you for posting this information here and on your web site.
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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-06-22, 18:29 PM
You're welcome of course, and if you have any specific questions regarding the Y580 feel free to ask!
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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-06-22, 22:33 PM

First of all, thank you very much for the review. I just have a question about SSD's. I ordered this laptop but I would like to buy a SSD for it. I have been looking for one at NCIX, but I noticed there are a few different options and I am not sure what will fit in this laptop. 3.5, 2.5, 1.8 inch, 7mm, 9.5mm??

I have (obviously) never bought a SSD before.

 

Thank you so much for reading this  :)

 

Also, is there any drives in particular that you would reccommend or tell people to avoid?

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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-06-24, 2:24 AM

You'll need to make sure it's a 2.5" form factor SSD as that's intended for laptops.  The clearance varies by laptop, but the Y580 has room for up to 9.5mm clearance, and of course anything smaller will fit.  Newegg has a great deal on a 512GB Crucial SSD right now, you can read about it at Slickdeals:

 

http://slickdeals.net/permadeal/76042/newegg-512gb-crucial-m4-2.5-sata-iii-mlc-internal-solid-state-drive-ssd-ct512m4ssd2

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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-06-24, 2:52 AM

Thanks  :)

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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-07-03, 21:11 PM
There is a blank mSATA slot next to the HDD if the HDD drive version only is orderered. Shouldn't we be able to install a second SSD drive in this slot and also have the HDD available?
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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-07-10, 12:52 PM

Hi Mountainmadness,
I think, it is possible to place mSATA near the HDD.

On this picture you can see on the left version of y580 without mSATA SSD and on the right with it:

 

mSATA near the HDD.jpg

 

You can check that can be installed on this laptop, here:
http://www.mydigitaldiscount.com/msata-ssd-compatability-list.html



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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-07-10, 13:44 PM
Oh nice, I've been looking for pics like this.. so the Y580 20994HU comes with a 32gb mSATA... Sadly cant replace it with the SDD I already got...
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Re: Lenovo Y580 First Look Review

2012-07-15, 23:44 PM

It's also worth noting that the reason the viewing angles are particularly limited on this model is not entirely because it is a TN panel, it's because it's a 15.6" 1366x768 TN panel.

 

15.6" 1366x768 displays, as do most other low-end laptop displays, tend to be very poor quality LCD panels. Much worse than the typical 15.6" 1920x1080 panel. My sister owns the Y580 FHD model, and while the display is still a TN panel, I can vouch for the viewing angles' being a noticeable bit better (as I would expect) than those typical of a 15.6" 1366x768 display.

 

Note to prospective buyers: You should do your best to avoid buying any model of the Y580 that comes with the 1366x768 display, in favor of buying a model that comes with the 1920x1080 display or buying a different computer that comes with a 15.6" 1920x1080 display, unless you require the larger text of a 15.6" 1366x768 display for eyesight-related reasons. Not only does the 15.6" 1366x768 display have very poor image quality, it also makes everything onscreen large and makes it difficult to fit very much onscreen at a time.

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