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Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-01-08, 12:15 PM

Hello everyone, I'm getting my first Laptop after many years of being a Desktop user and I have some question on how to do things here.

First I'm getting a Lenovo Y580, model #59359513, which only comes with a 1TB 5400 rpm hard drive, there is no msata SSD but I believe I have the option to install one later.
Right now I'm planning in adding a Samsung 840 Pro [url=http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820147193]link from newegg.com[/url], where the hard drive is, and get a hard drive caddy for the hard drive to have it as storage.

 

Now my questions are:

 

1. How is the connectors to install a SSD on a laptop, is it just plug and go, is it simple as removing the hard drive and adding the SSD to it or do I have to get adapter of some kind? If I do Please let me know which one.

 

2. I have been reading and I see lots of people that are using caddy, is adding the SSD to the caddy not the other way around like I want to do it, is there a reason to it?

 

3. Some people are complaining about heat issues and saying that using it with a SSD + caddy will help to solve that, but keeping the hard drive generate heat the same way, doesn't it?

 

4. Please suggest me a good caddy for the Y580, I dont know which one to buy yet.

 

5. If I have the option to add a msata SSD later, I read somewhere that I might have to get some screws to it, does anyone knows anything about it?

 

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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-01-08, 15:07 PM

1. as far as full size sata drives go, its pretty much pop the old one out, pop the new one in. The sata interface is the same. Some ultrabooks require a 7mm tall SSD but I don't think you need to worry about it on the y580. Any notebook drive should fit.

 

2. Yes, your boot drive should be in your main drive bay. I'm not even sure the sata in the dvd bay is sata III. May only be sata 2 which is fine for HDD.

 

3. Unfortunatly the way the gpu and cpu are positioned, you get a lot of extra heat on your HDD. Then this tends to create a hotspot or more acurately a warm spot on the keyboard.

 

http://hcd-1.imgbox.com/abyhF5HU.jpg?st=xlubHrtYhbV66szqsNmrDw&e=1357659075

 

If you can identify in that picture, that light blue area is where your hdd is installed. Sandwhiched next to it is the copper heat sinks covering the cpu and gpu units. Installing an SSD will help. While you still get some heat from the CPU and GPU, you won't have much heat generating from the SSD itself. HDD actually produce a fair amount of heat when used constantly like while playing a game.

 

4. I don't have one, can't comment except to say, just make sure you get the right hiegtht to match your current drive.

 

5. You need one and only one M2x3mm screw. I stole one off of my last laptops wifi card. It'll stay in place without it. Otherwise go to laptopscrews.com and pony up for shipping.

 

Be aware, I bought the windows 8 version of the y580 and I'm having difficulty getting my 256 gb m4 msata drive to boot. I can't confirm why it doesn't work yet. I do know I can access it just fine. It partitions and stores data just fine but my Y580 - 59359513 doesn't want to boot to it.

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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-01-08, 15:03 PM

1. SSD has SATA interface connector like your HD; so replace and install OS.  No adapter needed.

2. Caddy is needed if you want to use optical drive space as space to hold the SSD/HD inside laptop.  -- I'm understanding your getting a hard drive caddy is to have it as external enclosure, right?  If external enclosure is not what you had in mind, then you do need a optical drive caddy to hold the HD as extra storage and lose the optical drive.

3. screw holding the mSATA is standard like the rest, so it shouldn't be too hard to get one - if not, scavenge from one of the screw holding the HD (haven't checked this myself).

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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-01-08, 15:07 PM

1. as far as full size sata drives go, its pretty much pop the old one out, pop the new one in. The sata interface is the same. Some ultrabooks require a 7mm tall SSD but I don't think you need to worry about it on the y580. Any notebook drive should fit.

 

2. Yes, your boot drive should be in your main drive bay. I'm not even sure the sata in the dvd bay is sata III. May only be sata 2 which is fine for HDD.

 

3. Unfortunatly the way the gpu and cpu are positioned, you get a lot of extra heat on your HDD. Then this tends to create a hotspot or more acurately a warm spot on the keyboard.

 

http://hcd-1.imgbox.com/abyhF5HU.jpg?st=xlubHrtYhbV66szqsNmrDw&e=1357659075

 

If you can identify in that picture, that light blue area is where your hdd is installed. Sandwhiched next to it is the copper heat sinks covering the cpu and gpu units. Installing an SSD will help. While you still get some heat from the CPU and GPU, you won't have much heat generating from the SSD itself. HDD actually produce a fair amount of heat when used constantly like while playing a game.

 

4. I don't have one, can't comment except to say, just make sure you get the right hiegtht to match your current drive.

 

5. You need one and only one M2x3mm screw. I stole one off of my last laptops wifi card. It'll stay in place without it. Otherwise go to laptopscrews.com and pony up for shipping.

 

Be aware, I bought the windows 8 version of the y580 and I'm having difficulty getting my 256 gb m4 msata drive to boot. I can't confirm why it doesn't work yet. I do know I can access it just fine. It partitions and stores data just fine but my Y580 - 59359513 doesn't want to boot to it.

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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-01-08, 17:27 PM
Thank you very much both of you, I got this caddy http://www.ebay.com/itm/for-Lenovo-IdeaPad-Y430-Y450-Y460-Y470-Y480-Y580-B460-2nd-SSD-hard-drive-caddy-/290753032149?pt=US_Drive_Bay_Caddies&hash=item43b23b2fd5&afsrc=1 and the sammy 840 pro, what I'm thinking in doing first is to remove the hard drive put the ssd on it's place, install windows fresh, 7 (which I have or 8 depends how it will work with the key) and then install the hard drive with the caddy.

Now another question, if I get a iso for windows 8, will it have a valid key, I heard it's saved into BIOS, is that true, how does that work?
Another thing is do I need Lenovo software for anything? I always liked to install a fresh copy and only download drivers that I need. So no extra programs that I dont need will be installed.

Thank you.
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2013-01-08, 17:59 PM

Bios key is simply read off of your bios. Its a hassle free system. Windows 8 installer will automatically read your bios key and will never ask you for it. This is why your windows 8 sticker under your laptop has no key on it. You don't need to know it for any reason at all. To upgrade to a windows 8 pro key, use the upgrade assistant after installing windows 8 to upgrade to a windows 8 pro key.

 

FYI, For installing windows 7, before you install, press the novo key which is the one right next to your power button. Go into bios setup and go to the exit page. Set OS optimized defaults to Other OS. Select load Default Settings. Press f10 to save and exit. Then install windows 7.

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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-11-09, 10:56 AM
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How it went "MadeInBrazil"?
Did the caddy work well?
What conf did you choose finally? (HDD+SSD | SSD + OpticalDrv)
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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2013-12-14, 18:27 PM

Thank you for your (no) answer.

 

I eventually bought one caddy and installed a new SSD and put the old/original HDD on that

It works fine

I can boot both from

Following the final configuration:

 

 500GB SSD at SATA3 6gb/s port 

and

 1TB HDD at SATA3 3gb/s port

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Re: Lenovo Y580 + SSD + Caddy, questions.

2014-06-13, 12:34 PM
Hi guys, I'm new in the community. Has anyone of you tried an adapter-caddy to replace the DVD player with a hdd? Do they work? What is the best adapter sata 3?
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