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Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-17, 23:08 PM

I'm thinking about changing the standard HDD 5400 rpm for a SSD drive.

I've decided to buy a Samsung 840 pro 128gb and keep the only HDD as external drive. 

The thing is that under the laptop i have some seal which i dont know if i can cut.

 

I dont want to lose the guarantee, as ive read a bit i can change the HDD without losing it but i just wanted to be sure, im attaching the photo of the back of laptop with the seal(in the red circle, it might be from the seller but better to be sure :D).

 

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Thx in advance.

 

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 0:06 AM

Siema!

 

1. You can replace your DVD drive with a caddy for second hard drive. Nowadays you won't use it much anyway.

2. Why don't you buy a mSATA SSD? This way you can use both HDD and SSD. I currently have mSATA SSD and 2 HDDs in my Y580 :)

 

Regarding this sticker it looks like retailers sticker... It's kinda sick the way they put it. It's as if somebody would put a sticker on a bonnet of a new car you just bought. Anway, it doesn't seem like a seal so my opinion is that you're safe to remove or break it. I didn't have any stickers in that place.

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 0:19 AM

Could u gimme some link for some mSATA SSDs? Lets say with the price similar to the Samsung 840 pro 128 gb :D

 

I was thinkin about using the SSD drive as and OS driver. Ive seen some solutions how to instal OS on the mSATA but it was messed up :D

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 0:41 AM

Try Crucial M4. There are others, but that's just the one I chose.

 

SSD in mSATA port is treated the same as any other drive unless you used one as cache before. In that case you have to change some settings in BIOS.

 

I just put the SSD in, and installed Windows "just like that".

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 4:36 AM

so as i understand i can plug into mSATA the same SSD drive as to normal SATA 3 ?

 

and also does y580 support SATA 3 or SATA 2 in mSATA slot?

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 4:40 AM

No. mSATA drives have different connection and form factor. mSATA drives are way smaller than 2,5" drives.

Here you have size comparison between those 2:

http://www.notebookreview.com/assets/65758.jpg

 

Theoretically mSATA in Y580 should be SATA3, but it is slower. From various results it seems it's capped at about 350MB/s. Don't let it discourage you... SSD as an OS drive has to have high IOPS, quick small random reads and reliability. It's rare for OS to move big chunks of data.

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 4:45 AM

ive checked that Crucial m4 and it looks preeety bad compared to samsung 840 pro

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 5:11 AM

Define "preeety bad" please. In everyday usage you won't notice much difference between those two. You should get the best SSD you can afford, but don't be fooled by transfer rates. The transition between HDD and SSD is a huge difference anyway, but you won't see much difference in real life between midrange SSD and upper-range SSD from around the same release date. Take a look at this topic:

 

http://www.tomshardware.com/forum/297003-32-crucial-samsung-vector

 

I'm not saying you should get M4. It's just that I have this one and I'm satisfied with it's performance and see no reason why I shouldn't recommend it. In my opinion you should get the most reliable and popular drive you can afford with speed being the secondary factor. You will be blown away by the SSD speed anyway. Utilising mSATA port means you don't have to sacrifice the HDD or the optical drive. It is very convienient solution. Either way, it's up to you.

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-18, 13:23 PM

as ive checked the mSATA SSDs this one looks preety nice and as ive read some reviews its not bad.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820249030

 

I got 1 more question mSATA will work with 3 GB/s or 6GB/s cuz ive saw another topic on forum: 

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/IdeaPad-Y-U-V-Z-and-P-series/Y580-mSATA-will-work-with-6-gb-s-speed/td-p/1036391

 

and here it says as i understand that the mSATA will workn with 6GB/s and the standard SATA with 3GB/s ?

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Re: Lenovo y580 changing HDD to SSD

2013-09-25, 8:22 AM

ive bought plextor at the end for the mSATA,

 

now i have another question:

Im thinking about geting the fresh system after the OKR on the new ssd drive i mean to migrate the system from HDD to the SSD, do u have any suggestions which program to use for such operation ?

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