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Message 11 of 29

Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

It's difficult to know what lenovo's strategy for the Yoga 11 and RT is right now, from a support and development point of view or otherwise.

 

The complete lack of info about this device here or on fb/twitter is quite disheartening.  I hope they don't just decide that RT is a non-starter and cut their losses. It really is a very nice device and deserves a lot more publicity than it's had - much better than the Surface, IMHO.

 

But please fix the keyboard, for pity's sake ... Smiley Sad I defy anyone to type this sentence on it at anything other than a snail's pace or without much back-spacing:

 

"The foolish seller misses a terrifically good opportunity."

 

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Message 12 of 29

Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

Here's another clear-cut case of a problem that I've seen more than once.  When the battery drops below ~40%, it can suddenly and catastrophically drop by tens of percent when woken from connected standby, and yet with no significant drainage reported during connected standby itself - and no evidence for why this should happen.

 

Here's the result of running powercfg /batteryreport just after this last happened:

 

SYSTEM PRODUCT NAME     LENOVO VenusTZ
BIOS     v1.2.56 11/13/2012
OS BUILD     9200
PLATFORM ROLE     Slate
CONNECTED STANDBY     Supported
REPORT TIME     2013-01-11 16:47:31

Recent usage
Power states over the last 72 hours
START TIME     STATE     SOURCE     CAPACITY REMAINING
2013-01-08 17:48:27    Connected standby     Battery     51 %     19,680 mWh
2013-01-09 18:13:00    Active     Battery     47 %     18,160 mWh
18:22:00    Suspended         45 %     17,390 mWh
18:23:46    Active     Battery     45 %     17,210 mWh
18:29:01    Connected standby     Battery     44 %     17,010 mWh
2013-01-11 16:43:47    Active     Battery     36 %     13,940 mWh
16:45:00    Report generated     Battery     7 %     2,680 mWh

START TIME     STATE     DURATION     ENERGY DRAINED
2013-01-08 17:48:27    Connected standby     24:24:33    4 %     1,520 mWh
2013-01-09 18:13:00    Active     0:09:00    2 %     770 mWh
18:23:46    Active     0:05:15    1 %     200 mWh
18:29:01    Connected standby     46:14:46    8 %     3,070 mWh
2013-01-11 16:43:47    Active     0:01:13    29 %     11,260 mWh

As you can see, a single drop of 29% in a minute after barely any use .... Smiley Sad

 

 

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Message 13 of 29

Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

Hi. I'm wondering if you ever got a solution to the sluggish keyboard problem.

 

I have exactly the same issue and have had it with 2 different yoga 11's. Sometimes, but not all the time, the computer is not picking up double letters. (This is the physical keyboard, not the on-screen keyboard.)  I've played around with the repeat speed, have checked "sticky keys", have researched on the internet. No luck.

 

This problem does not seem to be very common, or at least it is not complained about very often. I just talked to Lenovo support and after a futile search for drivers (Windows RT does not use drivers), they said they hadn't heard of the problem--that it must be hardware. I've never in 50 years had this problem on any other keyboard.  

 

What did you end up doing with your Yoga 11? Did you learn to live with it. (Wondering if that's really possible.)  I love the computer in so many other ways! 

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The problem you describe is exactly the one I have. It's not reassuring at all to hear that support know nothing about, if only users had posted on their own product forums about it ... OH WAIT.

 

I'm living with it only because it's past the point  I can return it. To be honest, I think the Yoga 11 is dead now, seeing as they're replacing it with the Yoga 11s (with core i5 no less) later this year Smiley Sad

 

I still like other things about the Yoga, but lenovo have just thrown away the opportunity with shoddy aftersales and apparently zero commitment to its own product.  It's unlikely that I'll buy from this company again.

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Message 15 of 29

Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

Does anyone have any updates for the keyboard repeat issue? Just got a yoga 11 myself and this is a complete deal breaker. Have had to fix the last sentence thrice because of this lag.

 

Mods? Anyone?

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Message 16 of 29

Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

I'm considering the yoga 11" and was holding back because of the high price for RT and slow processor.
I see BB and Amazon are selling it now for $599.
Now that they lowered the price I'm wondering?
Comments?
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Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

I got it on sale for $499, and I'm very hesitant to keep it. For one, the keyboard issue as I (and others) have mentioned. The fix is going to be released soon I think so its a good idea to wait until there are confirmations of it working.

 

Pros: Just the right size for putting in a reasonable keyboard. Any smaller and the keyboard would've been too small. Battery life is phenomenal. Size is also ideal for using as a laptop on the go and occassionaly as a tablet. Windows RT is a much better productivity OS than Android or iOS IMO.

 

Cons: I got it as a secondary laptop, but performance is quite slower than my main one. Obviously, tegra 3 vs i5/i7 is always going to be slow, but the point is that if you're used to a certain speed on your current laptop, the slower performance might annoy you. I think it comes down to this- as a tablet, this is certainly quite fast. You won't feel a lag in most metro apps because you're using your fingers to navigate. As a laptop though, I am used to navigating much faster using the keyboard and that is where the lag starts to show. Things such as pressing Ctrl-T to open a new tab and loading a url and pressing Ctrl-T again to open another tab and load that. This thing isn't right for heavy usage at all.

 

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Message 18 of 29

Re: Ideapad Yoga 11 with Windows RT - Issues

thanks for your report...curious, where did you find it for $499?

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Message 19 of 29

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Costco canada.

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hello gtop,

did you manage to solve the bluetooth audio problem?

I facing the same Problem :-( - half a year later...

thx ruxn

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