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Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-02, 15:21 PM

Hello all:

I'm planning to gift my son (10 years-old) with a yoga. I have two options that I'm considering:

1- Lenovo - Yoga 2 2-in-1 13.3" Touch-Screen Laptop - Intel Core i5 - 4GB Memory - 500GB Hard Drive
2- Lenovo - IdeaPad Yoga 13 2-in-1 13.3" Refurbished Touch-Screen Laptop - 8GB Memory; 256GB SSD

I'm leaning towards the older version due to SSD and 8GB RAM but understand the newer version might have some improvements that I might not be aware of...for chips, screen (1080p) or others that I might not be aware of?

 

Being a kid, he shall using it for both studies as well as an entertainment machine. Don't see real 'gaming' happening here...no plans for that. I'll ofcourse install Office and all..for myself too. I figure it's going to be great for browsing and traveling for me too :)

What would you recommend I go for?

Thanks,
DCM

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-02, 16:14 PM
  • The old one has an extra slot so you can add a 2nd HDD/SSD. The new one does not.
  • The new one has glass all the way to the hinge. My glass cracked--from the hinge-- and now the touch screen in un-usable  The old one has plastic by the hinge, making it more durable.
  • The older one has a full size SD, allowing you to place a semi-permanent drive.

 

  • Booth have Wifi instability issues but, it is more prominent on the Yoga 2.

 

  • The new one has a backlit keyboard, the older one does not.

 

 

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-02, 16:26 PM

Thanks for the quick input. This is certainly very helpful. Your post suggest it might be a good idea to stick to the old yoga. The slot for extra SSD is certainly VERY appealing. Does the new screen quality or newer Intel chipset been much improved where I'd be missing something? Backlit keyboard is surely a nice-to-have but not a must-have. 

 

Any other thoughts folks? 

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-02, 16:46 PM

The intel chip will be better in the older one, since it is an i7. Also the 4th gen chips clock slower than the 3rd gen since their goal is to increase battery life. Frankly, you would be buying into the potential of a longer battery life. Frankly, I can't comment on the battery life of either machine. 

 

As for the screen, you are looking at: 1080p (new) vs. 900p (old) this is your call.

 

Before buying these computer though, read on how easy it is to crack the screens on these units. Both report issues and Lenovo fails to recognize this as a problem beyond accidental damage by the user. Frankly, I did nothing but open my laptop gently and now have a broken computer. My computer was unusable since the mouse kept moving along the crack and there was no way to get control of my computer.

 

I had to write a self injecting virus with a touch screen disabling script to control my computer with a USB drive (lucky for me, I had made a touch disabling program a few days back). Frankly, it was not easy to do. Now I await to see if I can get the issue fixed. Being outside the US at the moment does not help my case.

 

So in short, do research. Every model has their shortcoming. I know the Yoga 2 (1080p version) can't boot to linux without shutting off the wifi card for good.

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-03, 1:54 AM

I have the newer Yoga 2 13 with I5 4GB 500GB.  Mine had an empty M.2 SSD slot which I filled with a Crucial M550 128GB SSD card for $99.   My Yoga benchmarks as well as some Yoga I7 machines because of the newer, faster SSD.

 

This newer Yoga does have fixes for past Yoga issues.  The screen is beautiful and fast.  The newer Yogas use the Intel 4th Gen CPUs which provide better battery life.  The Yoga 13 shipped back in 2012 with a slower SSD.  256GB is not a lot of storage.  Most cheap notebooks come with at least 500GB.

 

My Yoga has not encountered any wifi, bluetooth, screen, or other issues.  My battery life is just over 8 hours with normal browsing, email, and writing.

 

And I love that the Yoga has a fast 500GB SSHD and a very fast 128GB SSD, both bootable.  I have been using PCs since the Toshiba T1000 with 512K RAM and one diskette drive.

 

You can find good reviews of the Yoga 2 13 at MobileTechReview.com and Digitalversus.com.

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-03, 4:15 AM

Nice to know it has a second SSD slot. I was under the impression it did not like the Y2P.

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-03, 7:44 AM
That's so good to read that newer yoga have another slot for adding a faster SSD drive as well. I was definitely l leaning towards the older model until I saw your reply. My only 2 question are:

1- Whether u feel the need to increase the RAM to 8GB since I've read that it's non-ungadeable. Do you miss that?
2- How easy is it to add the 128GB SSD on this laptop and make it the main bootable drive?

I think I shall order either today or tomorrow.

Thanks!!
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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-03, 12:44 PM
I have owned the original Yoga 13 and the Yoga 2 Pro.

The newer chip in the Yoga 2 Pro runs much cooler and quieter. It is quite a nice improvement in my opinion.

I don't have any children, but I wonder if something like the Yoga 2 11 might be an option. It might be easier to hold as a tablet since it is smaller? As I type this, there are some for $300 at the Lenovo outlet.
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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-03, 18:09 PM

Given the newer information, I think I'm back to Yoga 2 now. As for 11" machines, yeah I noticed those yesterday as well but the technie in me likes the idea of having a nice machine that I can play (or entertain) with as well. :) Decisions, decisions...

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Re: Yoga 13 8GB (i7) vs Yoga 2 4GB (i5) for Student

2014-06-03, 18:31 PM

What about the thinkpad yoga model? If he is a student, he might benefit from the stylus. Plus for a 10 yr old, I really do think you need a sturdier computer like the thinkpad. I treat mine like gold and look what happened to me. Also the thinkpad has retractable backlit keyboard, 1080p screen and the support of a thinkpad.

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