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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-07-26, 21:47 PM

Whats a better buy,

A new Yoga 2 13 from Best Buy with the I5 4210 8 GB 128GB SSD with the latest ac wireless adaptor for $899 plus 10% discount

or

Refurbised oringal Yoga 2 13 with 8GB ram and 256GB SSD for $819.00

 

So about the same price for both yet the latest BB model is a tad faster and has the newer wireless in it except gving up storage space.

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-07-31, 20:44 PM

So guys I got a Yoga 2 13 with the 500/16 hybrid option and naturally took it apart to have a look :)

 

The connector on the HDD is the new SFF-8784 Edge Connector. The specification can be found here: http://www.wdc.com/wdproducts/library/SpecSheet/ENG/2579-771981.pdf

 

Lenovo's connector from the motherboard to the HDD is labeled ZIVYWD, DC0001VK00 VER1, SYMI (BS1) and has 8 colored cables.

I traced those cables to the HDD connector and here follows the pinout interconnection (left side lenovo, right side HDD):

Black -> 15 (+5V)

Brown -> 16 (+5V)

Red -> 19 (SATA_RX+/A+)

Orange -> 18 (SATA_RX-/A-)

Yellow -> 11, 14, 17, 20 (GND)

Green -> 13 (SATA_TX-/B-)

Blue -> 12 (SATA_TX+/B+)

Gray -> 11, 14, 17, 20 (GND)

 

The bottom view of the SFF plug is mostly 5V/GND so nothing important there gray, yellow are connecting to GND and black brown to 5V.

 

The hdd thickness is 5mm (normal 2.5' is 7mm).

 

So it seems possible to connect a normal SSD (with the case removed they are usually <=5mm) if one can get the lenovo plug (either from ordering direct or finding the connector online) and routing it to the normal SATA connectors.

 

In the next days I'll be posting some photos.

 

 

 

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-07-31, 21:17 PM

Someone posted a cable somewhere in this formus and I found this one too bad I dind't understand a word....

 

http://www.jagatreview.com/2013/07/review-western-digital-blue-ultraslim-hard-disk-ramping-kinerja-tinggi/

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-07-31, 21:21 PM

Isn't this what we are looking for? Not sure about the added hight though....

http://www.aliexpress.com/item/WD5000MPCK-SFF-8784-SATA-Express-to-SATA3-0-2-5inch-6Gbps-Add-on-Cards-PCBA-for/1769261667.html

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-07-31, 21:45 PM

Both those cables are helpful if you want to connect a slim hdd to an older laptop or if you already have a slim HDD and want to use it as a second in a yoga with the SSD option by hacking your own cable. But I doubt one would be in that situation as (at the moment) it is impossible to source a slim drive if you're not a manufacturer and even if you did it would be easier to order the cable from lenovo.

 

So the only option left is whether one can replace the slim HDD with a typical SSD SATA drive or add it as a second drive for the single SSD yogas out there that come with their SSD connected to M2 (leaving the space for the HDD drive free).

 

My guess is it is physically possible since the size of the SSD drive without the case is less than 5mm and the cable can be easily hacked to connect to the old SATA one. The only problem would be getting the lenovo side connector but I've seen those in other devices so I assume they wouldn't be that hard to find if one would spend some time browsing through a few electronic's store catalogues (or old parts).

 

I'm planning to try that as I already have an old SSD but that will have to wait until I buy an M2 drive to replace my hybrid one. And since I'm happy with the current perfomance I will wait until prices drop to get a 480GB M2 so that might take a few months.

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-07-31, 22:03 PM
If anyone that has the hybrid drive is wanting to get rid of it, let me
know. I'd be interested in buying the drive + bracket + cable as I have
the new BB model that uses the m.2 SSD.

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-08-04, 9:15 AM

Here come the close up photos as promised.

 

The blue lines are 1cm each if one would like to make some approximate scaling.

 

Lenovo's motherboard connector is the white one, the black is the HDD SFF connector (as explained a few posts back).

 

Link to picture

 

Link to picture

 

Link to picture

 

Moderator note; picture(s) converted to link(s) About Posting Pictures In The Forums

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-08-04, 12:46 PM

Great pictures!

 

The HDD connector on the Yoga 2 11 seem to have 10 pins, compared to the 8 for the Y2 13 on your pictures ...

 

Connectors HDD Yoga 2 11 13.jpg

Picture left Yoga 2 11, right is Y2 13

 

@ centex99: I'm considering selling the WDC + cable, if we make a little more progress on this research.

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-08-08, 23:01 PM

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Hi hawkeye62, 

 

I'll tell you what I know. The first Yoga 2 13 we had was defective. The fan was spinning incessantly. Full throttle. Also, we noticed that the wifi dropped. A lot. I couldn't stream an MKV over the network without it losing the connection. Oh yeah, and the occassional black screen all of a sudden. So we replaced it, and the new one is much better. The fan operates normally. Very quiet. Like a ninja on plush carpet. The wifi on this one seems to be much better, though I wouldn't say it is overwhelmingly powerful. The yoga is mostly my wife's, and I haven't had a chance to play with it out in the field, at hotels or coffee shops yet. It does decently well on our home network, however. 

 .


Travis

I just picked up the Best Buy version of the Yoga 2 13 for a kiiler deal. $749 out the door. It has the newer I5 4210 CPU 8GB Ram and 128GB SSD. Anyways as I have been installing all the updates to Windows 8.1 with the device plugged in I also the fan spining and not sure if this is normal or if I have a dud you you first had.  I know the fan has to come on especially while being plugged in yet I am not sure. How is yours running when plugged in?

 

Also have you found any of the Lenovo Software useful or did you delete it all?

Thanks

Steven

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Re: Yoga 2 13 Internals

2014-08-13, 18:30 PM

I have been running my Yoga 2 13 Best Buy edition for about a week now, really liking it so I decided to swap out the 128GB SSD that came with the yoga to the Crucial M500 240GB M.2 6gb/s ssd.

The ssd migration went very smoothly no problems.

Yet with the new Crucial installed now I have taken a heavy performace hit.

According to Crystal Disk Mark my Seq Reads are down to 245 MB/s and my Writes are at 199 MB/s

Almost half the speed of the OEM 128GB SSD that came with the Yoga.


Does this sound right? Why is my SSD running so slowly?

Thanks

 

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