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09-26-2016

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-27, 9:07 AM

Love the hardware but no choice i suppose :(

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09-22-2016

Norway

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-27, 10:16 AM

I tried returning mine. Store wouldnt let me. I sent letters to the Consumer counsil (wich will talk to the store on behalf of me) and I sent a complaint to the Consumer buerau because of bad advertisment.

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06-30-2012

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-27, 18:48 PM

Yes, you can't really say that Linux doesn't support RAID on SSD, that's as inaccurate as it gets:

https://plus.google.com/+AlanCoxLinux/posts/QWnM6s2zKWm

If you haven't heard of him, Alan Cox is one of the most influential Linux kernel open source developers. I highly recommend reading his overview of Linux RAID.

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09-08-2016

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 0:31 AM

Lenovo Yogas not letting you install Linux is a coincidence....in the same way that all HP printers rejecting 3rd party ink on the same day was a *quotation fingers* "coincidence".

 

Speaking of which: I don't dare get rid of my old HP AIO printer now. It didn't give me the *quotation fingers*"error" so I think it's before they built in the timebomb. It has a driver that works in Windows 10. They're going to have to pry it out of my cold dead hands.

 

Anyway, Matthew Garrett blamed Intel for the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate situation" with Yogas and Linux, but Alan Cox not only works for Intel, he's a kernel developer that understands how to work in areas of the kernel that scare away almost everyone else, who have a hard time figuring out what's going on in there. Think.....assembler.

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09-08-2016

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 0:39 AM

Avoiding a technical violation while talking about the *quotation fingers* "unfortunate totally coincidental Linux situation" on the Yogas on this forum is getting to the point where it's like if people asked you if the FBI was there and having to say "no" while nodding your head. :)

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09-08-2016

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 0:41 AM

I don't know what your laws are like in Norway, or what your credit card agreement is, but some banks in the US allow you to dispute the charge and say that the merchandise failed to meet your expectations.

 

Then they can force a chargeback against the merchant.

 

It totally depends on your laws, credit card agreement, and the contract they signed with the merchant. So it can take a while for your claim to work its way through the system.

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09-29-2016

Germany

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 7:01 AM

Small update from Germany:

 

We mandated a lawyer this week because the online shop we bought the ideapad from denies to take back the product and refund our money.

 

Can we please once more collect the facts according to the current situation

As far as I remember:

 

- Linux supports native NVME since Kernel 3.1

- page 22 of the user manual suggests that a Linux installation should be possible in theory

- the hardware supports AHCI, NVME and a proprietary RAID mode

- the BIOS is locked to the proprietary RAID mode

- Lenovo does not provide RAID drivers for Linux or any form of source code

- the product information on the Lenovo web site does not explicitly exclude the installation of Linux in any form

 

Are those reference points correct?

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09-08-2016

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 9:08 AM

They changed the website to release a statement that Linux is not supported on the Yoga laptops affected, but not until a few days ago, and they've been selling the affected laptops for almost a year.

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09-29-2016

Germany

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 9:11 AM

Also on the 710s' product page?

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09-29-2016

Germany

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-09-29, 9:38 AM

Thank you very much. Trust me, we will force them to take it back.

 

And trust me, it will be the last (of dozens!) product from Lenovo our company has bought, as long as I am responsible for the whole IT.

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