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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-10-27, 11:45 AM

Is the BIOS update that fixes the problem with SATA drive mode released for Yoga 900 yesterday compatible with 710s model?

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-10-27, 12:31 PM

The update is listed only on the Yoga 900-13ISK2 BIOS page so probably not.

Maybe someone can start a new petition for the Ideapad 710s as well (I don't know how to do that)?

 

It only took 132 signatures to make Lenovo release the new BIOS so it might be worth a try.

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-10-27, 15:02 PM

In response to customer requests for a BIOS that allows Linux to be installed on Yoga 900 and Ideapad 710s models, Lenovo has started releasing new BIOS.

 

For a complete list of models receiving these BIOS, please read this Knowledge Base article: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Yoga-900-and-Ideapad-710S-Linux-Only-BIOS/ta-p/3466850

 

I will post again when the Ideapad 710s BIOS have been published.

 

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-10-29, 4:09 AM

Hey, can someone tell me if this message (see below) means that I won't be able to dual boot my laptop with both a linux OS and Windows 10? If I update the BIOS, will it prevent me from booting a Windows, or can I somehow ? I need both Linux and Windows so I prefer to be sure. In the worst case I'll have to VM Windows 10, but I don't want to have to buy another license or make the Windows part slower.

 

Sorry for my english, it isn't my best language.

 

"Please note the following:
This BIOS is not intended to be used on machines running Windows operating systems.
No official support is provided for this BIOS.
The user assumes the risk of any un-intended or performance degradation risks that may be associated with using this BIOS."

 

 

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-10-29, 8:48 AM

Yay .. good news !

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-10-30, 16:53 PM
Did someone try the new BIOS and can say if there is a really noticeable performance reduction?
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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-11-01, 17:20 PM

The BIOS that allows Linux to be installed on Ideapad 710s models have been published.

 

For a complete list of models receiving these BIOS, please read this Knowledge Base article: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Lenovo-Yoga-Series-Notebooks/Yoga-900-and-Ideapad-710S-Linux-Only-BIOS/ta-p/3466850

 

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-11-26, 22:59 PM

Hey fellow Linux users,

I just wanted to drop in because it was impossible for me to source any information on the actual Linux compatibility due to the whole SSD issues. 

I'm using Ubuntu 16.04 with Gnome (NOT Ubuntu Gnome). I've been using the laptop for 10 days now.

 

  • The BIOS update switches off SafeBoot on its own but you need to switch to AHCI mode yourself in BIOS (FN + F2 for BIOS if you are in "hotkey mode"), I suspect that Windows won't start anymore in AHCI mode (it still did in RAID mode)
  • WLAN, Bluetooth, video output, camera, microphone and most function keys are working.
  • Lock and power button dont work in OS, but you can switch the device ON with the power button. I didn't bother to fix this since closing the lid and software shutdown works.
  • Hibernate has to be activated as usual, however it takes quite long for the device to get into hibernate and the wake up is not that quick, I think in sum it takes as long as a shutdown & startup. This could be some form of the mentioned "performance degradation" because the SSD is not operated in Lenovos intended way. In any other situation the system feels very snappy, exactly as you would expect from an SSD powered system. 
  • I recommend using suspend on lid close, the system will be immediately there after reopening it and from extrapolations from some Micron slides power consumption of the LPDDR3 should be 1-2W on idle, negligible.
  • I usually have an outlet nearby so I wasn't much on battery but I tested it with Amazon Video: it went from 95% to 16% in 3 hours, however Amazon Video is a bit dodgy on Linux and you should be able to get more battery time if you are watching Youtube videos. For reference I've read another users review who reported 5 hours with Youtube on Windows, so the power management seems to be not that bad.
  • Finally something that affects Windows as well as Linux: The fan curve is very aggressive, this is annoying especially in boosting situation longer than 1 second. The package shoots up into the low 80°C and the fan scales accordingly, that is usually unnecessary since the heat load will fade but the high fan rpm will stay until it is back at 45°C. Easy fix is an in OS utility to disable boost if you experience this behavior frequently in your workload, with 2.2GHz it only goes up to 60°C which results in lower fan rpms. If you have a constant high load the fan will turn up, too, but this is expected if you cramp a 15W Core i7 into such a small frame with low heat capacity. If you want a more silent solution at constant load go for another laptop with either a thicker body or a 4.5W Core M. 

I have not tried to adjust the fan curve in OS yet (the BIOS does not hold an option for this), but I don't know if there is an utility that is able to do this for laptop fans. If I manage to pull off a less agressive fan curve I will update this post. 

 

Conclusion: Although I did not really tested Windows I've not found any major disadvantages using Linux in the past 10 days, the system pretty fast (excluding hibernate) and I was even able to play some csgo and dota2 on 1080p low. System functions and performance is fine in general, I only found minor restrictions like the power button not working in OS.

My only major criticism is the agressive fan curve in boosting situations, a more differentiated handling of the reported temperatures would help the noise level. This applies for Windows based systems, too. 

 

Greetings,

Kunter

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2016-12-13, 20:32 PM

Thank you @Kunter for your report.

 

Here are my findings for the ideapad 710s-13IKB: https://github.com/trepmag/710s-13ikb

 

Greetings,

Cedric

 

 

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Re: ideapad 710s and Linux

2017-02-01, 14:38 PM

Hi!

 

I saw your guide, and it was good because i cant get the sound to work for me.

But even after following your instructions i cant get it to work.

I was just wondering some things to help me on the way if you have the time to answer.

 

Do you dualboot with windows?

Is that alsa-info text, before or after you installed the latest drivers?(mine can't find any soundcards)

 

Thanks very much!

 

--Edit--

 

Nvm, it works now. Thanks alot!

 

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