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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-28, 23:33 PM
Zbreeze02, I think you're missing the point. There was already a ton of top-tier 5.5"+ phones to choose from, so for people that want a bigger screen, you were already rich with options.

But for those of us that picked the 2013 X because of its manageable size along with good specs, this is a big blow. Basically we're left with very little decent small Android devices, primarily the Z3 compact, but Sony want too much money for it relative to out X's.

To the folks that suggest an E or G, there are some big tradeoffs there. 1gb of RAM is not enough for power users running a handful of apps (Feedly, chrome, mail, twitter) in fact, 2gb is barely enough. There are others but that the main issue for me, along with a responsive fluid phone.
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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-28, 23:34 PM

zbreeze02 said:


Not all smart phone users have the eyes of a teenager.  My wife has a Nexus 6 and loves the size.  I plan on buying the Moto X 2015 Pure Edition this fall to replace my Moto X 2013. The 5.7 inch screen is just right.  So, you may think that Motorola flipped you the bird, but I think they did great by me. I welcome and appreciate the larger screen.


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Sir there are ophthalmic glasses for everyone who can't see properly, that don't justify the fact of bigger screens lose the concept of a phone. Even you can use a tablet with a sim card to make calls if you can't see a darn thing.

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-28, 23:40 PM

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zbreeze02 said:


Not all smart phone users have the eyes of a teenager.  My wife has a Nexus 6 and loves the size.  I plan on buying the Moto X 2015 Pure Edition this fall to replace my Moto X 2013. The 5.7 inch screen is just right.  So, you may think that Motorola flipped you the bird, but I think they did great by me. I welcome and appreciate the larger screen.


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Sir there are ophthalmic glasses for everyone who can't see properly, that don't justify the fact of bigger screens lose the concept of a phone. Even you can use a tablet with a sim card to make calls if you can't see a darn thing.


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You made me smile:





However, it's personal choice, it's not just about eyes. I think that a display should be between 4 and 5 inches - Because I like it so. I have big hands but yet, I prefer a small phone. If I want a big screen, there are tablets, still... I'll buy the new Moto X 2015. 

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 0:04 AM

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Zbreeze02, I think you're missing the point. There was already a ton of top-tier 5.5"+ phones to choose from, ........ View original


Yes, but how many of those 5.5" top tier phones have radios that work on all major USA carriers?  Certainly somewhat less than a ton.  The advantage of phones like the Nexus 6 is the customer can "give the finger to the carrier" and still take their phone with them (CDMA-GSM) and still have complete functions instead of having to buy a new phone or settle for reduced usability.



In the long run it comes down to personal preference; I like a phone with a larger screen.

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 0:10 AM

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.............Then I'm thinking that for people like you, they're aiming the Moto G? Perhaps the E? These phones more than accomplish your desired task, while meeting your size requirements.



Perhaps people like me, who want a one-handed flagship, are truly becoming the minority. I sincerely wish Moto the best with their approach, it's just not for me. I'll be keeping my 2013 X until I see a need to upgrade.




Perhaps you should consider this new LG Android phone http://tinyurl.com/oq86grm 

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 0:13 AM

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zbreeze02 said:


Not all smart phone users have the eyes of a teenager.  My wife has a Nexus 6 and loves the size.  I plan on buying the Moto X 2015 Pure Edition this fall to replace my Moto X 2013. The 5.7 inch screen is just right.  So, you may think that Motorola flipped you the bird, but I think they did great by me. I welcome and appreciate the larger screen.


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Sir there are ophthalmic glasses for everyone who can't see properly, that don't justify the fact of bigger screens lose the concept of a phone. Even you can use a tablet with a sim card to make calls if you can't see a darn thing.


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Thank you Dr. Phil for the advice.  I hope that when you reach my age there are younger people with equally great advice for you.  I like a larger screen.  You do not.  Simple as that.  My advice, "Don't buy a Moto X 2015.  There are other choices for you."  My "concept of a phone" is different than yours; there's room for both of us. 

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 0:18 AM

A lot to respond to, so here goes:



Peachtree - in your response to myself and Yogem, you compare the size of the Moto X 2013 and the 3rd gen Moto G by comparing their screen sizes. A phone's overall size is more than just its screen, as bezels make a huge difference. Compare, for example, our Moto X to that of the iPhone 6. Both have 4.7" displays, but the iPhone is a much larger phone in comparison. Screen size isn't everything. That said, the Moto G is a large phone due to having massive bezels.



http://www.phonearena.com/phones/size#/phones/size/Motorola-Moto-X,Apple-iPhone-6,Motorola-Moto-G-2015/phones/7885,8346,9513



 



zbreeze02 - That's wonderful that you prefer a larger phone. I respect that. However, many people who bought the Moto X 2013 (a small phone) bought it because it's a small phone, and therefore, we expect future iterations of it to be a small phone. If Samsung suddenly decided that the Galaxy S6 next year was going to be a toaster instead of a smartphone, that would probably tick off the core audience of that product (but I'm sure toaster enthusiasts would be happy?). Bottom line is that there are MANY large phones out there, and FEW small phones out there. Having a product line that was originally a small phone defect to the larger phone segment further clutters that market segment, while further reducing this market segment.



In your next post, you ask how many larger phones support all carriers? Right now, two (Nexus 6, Moto X 2015). How many small phones support all carriers? Zero. Had the Moto X 2015 been a small phone, we'd have one of each. So I'm not sure what point you're trying to make here, but you're helping my case better than yours. And you reiterate that you prefer a large phone. Again, good for you. The Moto X 2013 is a small phone. Many of us owners of said device prefer a small phone. We're allowed to have that preference.



f38urry - That phone is nothing like the 2013 Moto X. Thanks for the troll post.



And back to zbreeze02 - You're once again going on about your preference. You once again tell us that there is choice. Let's go over that choice. 2015 flagship phones with 5.5" and greater displays? Countless. 2015 flagship phones with 4.7-5.0" displays? Precisely zero (unless you count the 2014 iPhone 6 and Z3 Compact, in which case, there are precisely two). So no, we don't have choice. Motorola just reduced our choice by one.

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 0:22 AM
Medion, wow, that! Those were the points I was trying to make but you nailed the explanation waaaay better! I concur 100% with that entire post.
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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 0:25 AM

MotoDarkdroid said:



zbreeze02 said:


Not all smart phone users have the eyes of a teenager.  My wife has a Nexus 6 and loves the size.  I plan on buying the Moto X 2015 Pure Edition this fall to replace my Moto X 2013. The 5.7 inch screen is just right.  So, you may think that Motorola flipped you the bird, but I think they did great by me. I welcome and appreciate the larger screen.


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Sir there are ophthalmic glasses for everyone who can't see properly, that don't justify the fact of bigger screens lose the concept of a phone. Even you can use a tablet with a sim card to make calls if you can't see a darn thing.


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Well, for the record, as you get older, your eyes lose the ability to focus, and the best glasses will only make things clear at a specific distance.  The solution, in that event, is making things bigger, but to do that comfortably, you need a screen large enough to show enough of what you're looking at so that you're not constantly moving the screen around.



Actually, I loved the size of the 2013 X, and complained about the size of the 2014 X.  But in the past year, I've come to appreciate the larger screen of the 2014 model, and find it still slips into a back pocket.  



The moral of the story for all of us I think, is that size really does matter, but not necessarily in the way we might think.  Sometimes, smaller really is better.   :-)

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Re: I think that Motorola just flipped us the bird...

2015-07-29, 5:54 AM

Medion said:


A lot to respond to, so here goes:



Peachtree - in your response to myself and Yogem, you compare the size of the Moto X 2013 and the 3rd gen Moto G by comparing their screen sizes. A phone's overall size is more than just its screen, as bezels make a huge difference. Compare, for example, our Moto X to that of the iPhone 6. Both have 4.7" displays, but the iPhone is a much larger phone in comparison. Screen size isn't everything. That said, the Moto G is a large phone due to having massive bezels.



 


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And there I was thinking that my nice short answer would be enough smiley



The Moto X 1. Gen. has a very small bezel. A phone that has a 0.3" larger screen size will already be bigger, irrespective of the size of its own bezel. To me, that is obvious to anyone who owns a 1. Gen. X. Please excuse my presumption.wink



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