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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-11, 18:59 PM

My phone isn't a Verizon phone. I just have a Verizon Sim (TracFone) card in it. There's no need to activate it with a Sprint Sim. Simply pop it in, check update, down, install, and pop out the Sprint Sim.

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-11, 19:20 PM

It could simply be that the Moto X pure/Android 7.0 update has not passed T-Mobile's ODI certification. Probably the same for Verizon. My wifi only phone was previously on Verizon and that is probably what is holding it up from getting the update. I am Ok with wating, for my phone that is still on Verizon, because if I force an update and Verizon notices an unapproved combination on their network they will block my IMEI and then I am without a phone.

How do I know... I used to be responsible for getting cellular IOT devices certified for Verizon, Sprint and AT&T.


That sounds plausible, but by that token, if you BYOD a MXPE to Verizon from Sprint after you updated, might it be blocked as well?

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-11, 19:26 PM

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It could simply be that the Moto X pure/Android 7.0 update has not passed T-Mobile's ODI certification. Probably the same for Verizon. My wifi only phone was previously on Verizon and that is probably what is holding it up from getting the update. I am Ok with wating, for my phone that is still on Verizon, because if I force an update and Verizon notices an unapproved combination on their network they will block my IMEI and then I am without a phone.

How do I know... I used to be responsible for getting cellular IOT devices certified for Verizon, Sprint and AT&T.


That sounds plausible, so by that token, if you byod mxpe to Verizon from sprint after you updated, could it be blocked as well?


That would be ridiculous

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-11, 19:37 PM

That is not entirely correct... As the mods have stated before, the update server keeps track of who gets the update, whether it was successful or not, and who doesn't. It was implied that if you sideload the OTA update, official or not, the update server doesn't know about it, so it won't offer you future updates because it doesn't think you are on this version.


And therein lies the rub.

Where does the update come from?

Is it sim specific, allowing for wifi or cellular download? It is obviously triggered by a Sprint linked IMEI. (Edit.. maybe not IMEI, maybe OS or Update version, perhaps a combination?)

 

Does it then route to a Moto distribution server or download from a Sprint source?

 

My hunch is Sprint is the early US carrier defending it's network infrastructure by having a security check in place to upgrade devices on it's network to patch Blueborne and by coincidence the MXPE gets Nougat, not the other way around, that it is primarily a Nougat release.

To further elaborate, it would seem there would be a 2 stage update if this was prior developed Nougat based, once for 7.0, then a follow-up security patch for Blueborne.

 

Just me thinkin

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-11, 20:25 PM

So in theory can a sprint sim be used on many phones to activate the update?  All we need is those with old junk sprint sims to start mailing them around, people use and mail to the next person, Moto reimburses each person for a stamp, we will all have N by the time P is released.

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-11, 21:37 PM
I just popped a sim from my daughter's old iPhone 6 that's been deactivated for two years from US Cellular and update came up instantly. Downloading now over WIFI.
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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-12, 5:31 AM
Try the beta version, maybe it will avoid the problem.
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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-12, 11:57 AM

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That is not entirely correct... As the mods have stated before, the update server keeps track of who gets the update, whether it was successful or not, and who doesn't. It was implied that if you sideload the OTA update, official or not, the update server doesn't know about it, so it won't offer you future updates because it doesn't think you are on this version.


I know that is the standard reply, this is the closest thing I have found in documentation.

I'm not sure about a real-time IMEI list, I'd think the device checks in with it's version and gets a push if there is an update.

I am skeptical that this is tracked by IMEI, I'd think that would be subject to a wide array of variables.

 

http://www.droid-life.com/2013/12/26/awesome-infographic-htc-shows-us-the-anatomy-of-an-android-os-update-from-pdk-to-ota/

 

 

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-12, 12:43 PM

This update is clearly being released based on certain carriers or withheld from certain carriers.

 

The question is why. I'm sure we will not get any more information from Motorola or Lenovo about this.

 

I read on another forum about someone who took an update for the Moto G5 Plus and then was not able to get an limited release update for the VoLTE issue that the Moto G5 Plus had.

 

That's my concern here. Will there be another release for devices that are on Verizon or AT&T and will those of us who were able to update be able to get another? Also, will there be any issues if I update using my Sprint SIM, when I put my Verizon SIM back in?

 

My problem with Motorola/Lenovo is more with the lack of communication.

 

I have multiple Moto phones starting with the 1st gen Moto G, the 2nd gen Moto E, the Moto G4 Play, the Moto E4 and my Moto X PE. I was considering the Moto Z Play, but that was not a carrier universal phone like other Moto phones and they reduced the battery size of the Moto Z2 Play for some strange reason.

 

I seriously doubt I'll buy any flagship devices from Moto and probably at all until the software can be updated without carrier or manufacturer interference, like it is with iOS.

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Re: Android (7.0) Nougat Update for Moto X Pure/Style

2017-10-12, 12:44 PM

So if that HTC infographic is accurate, unlocked devices do not need carrier review?

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