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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-05, 16:26 PM

Pixel is running N. Google could have changed something. Users with many makes of phones could not connect to channels 13 and 14 because of a google change a few os revs back - it was apparent outside usa where wifi restrictions are less. It wasnt a moto setting. 


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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-05, 16:52 PM

Thanks to all your responses. Things are getting interesting, so I decided to install a wifi analyzer in my laptop to see the details of the drone.  Please look at the details below. It is using channel 165 at 5Ghz channel band.

Then I checked my Moto X Pure and checked the available channels and according to the wifi analyzer for US the available channels for 5Ghz are 36,40,44,48,52,56,60,64,100,104,108,112,116,120,124,128,132,136,140,153,157,161,165.

I guess the Moto X Pure has a wide range of channels for 5GHz. I need to check again if these channels are restricted in any way when signed in to Google. 

 

 

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-05, 20:16 PM

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Pixel is running N. Google could have changed something. Users with many makes of phones could not connect to channels 13 and 14 because of a google change a few os revs back - it was apparent outside usa where wifi restrictions are less. It wasnt a moto setting. 


My Pixel C could always see my 5GHz WiFi since it was on M.

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-05, 20:21 PM

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Thanks to all your responses. Things are getting interesting, so I decided to install a wifi analyzer in my laptop to see the details of the drone.  Please look at the details below. It is using channel 165 at 5Ghz channel band.

Then I checked my Moto X Pure and checked the available channels and according to the wifi analyzer for US the available channels for 5Ghz are 36,40,44,48,52,56,60,64,100,104,108,112,116,120,124,128,132,136,140,153,157,161,165.

I guess the Moto X Pure has a wide range of channels for 5GHz. I need to check again if these channels are restricted in any way when signed in to Google. 

 

 


Then channel 165 is one of the channels that are getting software disabled after the phone's initial setup. My Router only has channels 36, 40, 44 and 48 and my Pure cannot see any of them (after initial setup).

 

It looks like moto have only enabled some of the supported 5GHz channels on the Pure, probably the DFS channels only (50-144).

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-05, 20:34 PM

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I don't think this is quite accurate. I have my WiFi set on channel 36 at home, and my Pure has no problem connecting to it. I am in the US, and am signed into my google account.


How do you know for sure that your Pure is actually connecting to your 5GHz SSID not your 2.4GHz SSID? If you are broadcasting both a 2.4GHz SSID and a 5GHz SSID and you're using the same SSID name on both, your Pure would be actually connecting to your 2.4GHz SSID without you knowing it.

 

To test properly whether your Pure is detecting your 5GHz SSID, you have to disable your 2.4GHz SSID or use different names on the SSIDs to identify which one is 2.4GHz and which one is 5GHz.

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-05, 21:25 PM

My Pure and my Nexus 5x see all the channles my router offere 36-161. 165 is not offere on my router. 

 

My router does offer 165, but it is not part of auto config, it has to be picked manually. I have not tested it, but i find it unlikely that the drone would use the one channel that is not supported by many phones. 165 is allowed in the usa, but not in many other countries. 


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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-06, 5:30 AM

This time I tried to focus on the drone's wifi signal and turned it on and off several times to check what channels is it broadcasting. So far I can see the drone is using channels 149, 153, 157, 161 and 165 all at 5Ghz band. It hasn't broadcasted below 149. These channels are all within the capabilities of the Moto X Pure. I also tried to set the Moto X Pure as an access point and it is broadcasting at channel 149 in 5Ghz band. It's becoming more apparent that some software is interfering/controlling with the phone's wifi capabilities. The puzzling question is why Moto X when there are other Android phones running on Google system that may not have the same problem binding with the Yuneec drone. Otherwise, I could have read a lot of negative reviews about the Yuneec not working on Android devices.

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-06, 6:14 AM

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My Pure and my Nexus 5x see all the channles my router offere 36-161. 165 is not offere on my router. 

 

My router does offer 165, but it is not part of auto config, it has to be picked manually. I have not tested it, but i find it unlikely that the drone would use the one channel that is not supported by many phones. 165 is allowed in the usa, but not in many other countries. 


Have you enabled both 2.4GHz and 5GHz on your router? If you have and both are using the same SSID name, your phone might be falling back to 2.4GHz (without you knowing), when your 5GHz network switches to a channel not supported on the Pure.

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-06, 6:29 AM

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This time I tried to focus on the drone's wifi signal and turned it on and off several times to check what channels is it broadcasting. So far I can see the drone is using channels 149, 153, 157, 161 and 165 all at 5Ghz band. It hasn't broadcasted below 149. These channels are all within the capabilities of the Moto X Pure. I also tried to set the Moto X Pure as an access point and it is broadcasting at channel 149 in 5Ghz band. It's becoming more apparent that some software is interfering/controlling with the phone's wifi capabilities. The puzzling question is why Moto X when there are other Android phones running on Google system that may not have the same problem binding with the Yuneec drone. Otherwise, I could have read a lot of negative reviews about the Yuneec not working on Android devices.


I'm telling you it's the channels. Those channels are software disabled on the Pure. Moto have probably only enabled DFS channels (50-144).

 

Check the xda threads below where other Pure users are having similar issues:

http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/5ghz-wireless-visible-t2520520

http://forum.xda-developers.com/moto-x/moto-x-qa/5ghz-wifi-t2571655

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Re: Moto X Pure Edition 5GHz WIFI Issues with Yuneec Breeze

2016-11-06, 12:25 PM

My 2.4 and 5ghz have different ssid names.  Additionally i am using wifi analyzer to see which channels are actually in use and what i am connected to. Which is 149. 

 

My Pure behaves no differently then my Nexus 5x. 


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