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Why is everyone giving the Z4 bad reviews?

2019-08-19, 22:26 PM

It seems that everyone that reviews phones is saying to stay away from the Z4. Why? I ordered one despite the bad reviews, and guess what? I love it ! It's a great phone! My last phone was a Moto Droid Maxx. It was a wonderful phone, but sadly it was getting outdated, many newly updated apps would not work on it. So I needed to upgrade. I wanted to stay with a Moto phone because I love Moto display and Moto actions. I was going to go with the G7 power, but Verizon had the Z4 on sale so I picked it instead. And I'm glad I did! The phone is fast (despite complaints that it should have a faster processor) ,  has a really nice display, takes great photos, has great battery life and does great during phone calls (it even supports Wi-Fi calls) So if you're interested in getting one I say go ahead and and do it!  I You'll love it! Ignore all these so- called "experts" that hate this phone! That's my opinion anyway. Have a nice day!?

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2019-08-20, 13:19 PM

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It seems that everyone that reviews phones is saying to stay away from the Z4. Why? I ordered one despite the bad reviews, and guess what? I love it ! It's a great phone! My last phone was a Moto Droid Maxx. It was a wonderful phone, but sadly it was getting outdated, many newly updated apps would not work on it. So I needed to upgrade. I wanted to stay with a Moto phone because I love Moto display and Moto actions. I was going to go with the G7 power, but Verizon had the Z4 on sale so I picked it instead. And I'm glad I did! The phone is fast (despite complaints that it should have a faster processor) ,  has a really nice display, takes great photos, has great battery life and does great during phone calls (it even supports Wi-Fi calls) So if you're interested in getting one I say go ahead and and do it!  I You'll love it! Ignore all these so- called "experts" that hate this phone! That's my opinion anyway. Have a nice day!?


Thanks for your vote of support! I like mine too, and so do many other folks. Amazon ratings are about 4 stars out of 5, which isn't bad at all.

 

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Re: Why is everyone giving the Z4 bad reviews?

2019-08-20, 13:34 PM

I concur with all stated above, this phone has been great for me.  I do not regret buying it at all.  One of the main reasons it is getting so many negative reviews is the tech media (and then people that read tech media and believe every word and cannot think for themselves) picking on the use of the Snapdragon 675 chip vs the Snapdragon 855 chip. Here is another thread stating how much this person likes their Z4 with the 675 chip.  I also believe a lot of the "experts" just don't like the Moto Mod concept, so they give it negative reviews.  They all thought it was great in 2016...they said it was awesome, it was revolutionary, etc.  But they probably don't own any Moto Mods and use them on a regular basis.  So now that we are 4 years into this Moto Z family and those of us that spent a lot of money on Moto Mods and can still use our original Mods from 2016 on our new phone in 2019...we think that is pretty cool.  Money well spent.  But the "tech experts" think it's an old, boring idea now.  Moto Mods no longer get the clicks they need on their articles, so they don't care about the new Moto Z and Moto Mods anymore.  I don't put a lot of stock in what most tech experts, tech journalists and reviewers on YouTube have to say or write.  They care about the shiny new phones with all kinds of new "bells & whistles" to talk about, because that can generate clicks to their article / site / video.  All in all I think the Z4 is a great phone that is getting undo negative press.  I wrote some positive reviews on another forum back in June, and stick by my initial impressions 3 months into using this phone. :robothappy:

 

Edit:  I also owned a Droid Maxx and absolutley loved that phone!  What a beast!  That was a great phone in the Droid family.  I used mine for about 1 1/2 years and then sold it to a freind and she used it for another year or so before passing it along to a family member.  It just kept on ticking...like the energize bunny.  Welcome to the Z4 and the Z4 community!

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Re: Why is everyone giving the Z4 bad reviews?

2019-08-21, 17:47 PM

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It seems that everyone that reviews phones is saying to stay away from the Z4. Why? I ordered one despite the bad reviews, and guess what? I love it ! It's a great phone! My last phone was a Moto Droid Maxx. It was a wonderful phone, but sadly it was getting outdated, many newly updated apps would not work on it. So I needed to upgrade. I wanted to stay with a Moto phone because I love Moto display and Moto actions. I was going to go with the G7 power, but Verizon had the Z4 on sale so I picked it instead. And I'm glad I did! The phone is fast (despite complaints that it should have a faster processor) ,  has a really nice display, takes great photos, has great battery life and does great during phone calls (it even supports Wi-Fi calls) So if you're interested in getting one I say go ahead and and do it!  I You'll love it! Ignore all these so- called "experts" that hate this phone! That's my opinion anyway. Have a nice day!?


They want you to buy a Pixel 3a instead. ?‍♂️

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2019-08-23, 2:09 AM

I am a Motorola enthusiast but I have become quite bored with Motorola. the main reason why is because I update my phones annually after 12 months, here's a list of Motorola phones I have owned over the last 10 years. The razor,Droid X, Droid pro, the Droid razr, the Droid Maxx,  the Droid turbo, the Droid turbo 2, the Moto Z Droid Force, the Moto Z2 Force, the Moto Z3 and now the Moto Z4. I have noticed that there is a growing list of pass Motorola features that now can be found on newer pixel phones. Like wave to dismiss notifications, Moto Voice (Google Assistant) for the life of me I can't understand why Motorola just stopped innovating.

 

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Re: Why is everyone giving the Z4 bad reviews?

2019-08-23, 2:15 AM

RAZR v3, Original Droid (2 ea), Droid 3, Droid Bionic, Droid RAZR M (4 ea), Droid MAXX, Moto X, Moto X 2014 (3 ea), Droid Turbo, Droid Turbo 2 (2 ea), Moto Z Play (3 ea), Moto Z Force, Moto Z2 Force, Moto Z2 Play (2 ea) and now a Z4.

 

Google bought Moto for their patents, not because they wanted to make hardware (not back then at least).  That's why so many of the Moto X / Droid Maxx features from 2013 have been incorporated into Stock Android as we know it today.  But each version of the Moto app ever since has had some new features.  Maybe not enough to satisfy everyone, but there have been new features every year.  Just my 2 cents on a Thursday evening.

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2019-08-23, 2:30 AM

Do not disturb, flip to DND, Moto display, the show me feature from the Moto Z2 Force. All of these features are on Pixel phones. The pixel 4 is supposed to have a feature, where you can wave to dismiss. Which Motorola's Droid Maxx featured. All I'm saying is Motorola's going to have to do something in 2020 other than make 15 phones with a Snapdragon 600 series chip.

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2019-08-23, 2:37 AM

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Do not disturb, flip to DND, Moto display....


All introduced with the Moto X / Droid Maxx back in 2013.  Then Google bough the patents and baked it into stock Android.

 



All I'm saying is Motorola's going to have to do something in 2020 other than make 15 phones with a Snapdragon 600 series chip.

That sales model has made them turn a profit for the first time in years.  Why would they stop now when they are making money?  They weren't making profit with the "flagship" model approach,  so I doubt anything will change.

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2019-08-23, 2:42 AM

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I am a Motorola enthusiast but I have become quite bored with Motorola. the main reason why is because I update my phones annually after 12 months, here's a list of Motorola phones I have owned over the last 10 years. The razor,Droid X, Droid pro, the Droid razr, the Droid Maxx,  the Droid turbo, the Droid turbo 2, the Moto Z Droid Force, the Moto Z2 Force, the Moto Z3 and now the Moto Z4. I have noticed that there is a growing list of pass Motorola features that now can be found on newer pixel phones. Like wave to dismiss notifications, Moto Voice (Google Assistant) for the life of me I can't understand why Motorola just stopped innovating.

 

A Motorola customer

Since 1987


It's because Motorola was so far ahead in terms of software with the original Moto X. All they ever needed was a competent camera and they finally have it with the Moto Z4.

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2019-08-23, 2:44 AM

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Do not disturb, flip to DND, Moto display, the show me feature from the Moto Z2 Force. All of these features are on Pixel phones. The pixel 4 is supposed to have a feature, where you can wave to dismiss. Which Motorola's Droid Maxx featured. All I'm saying is Motorola's going to have to do something in 2020 other than make 15 phones with a Snapdragon 600 series chip.


It's like you want them to start losing money again. ?

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2019-08-23, 2:50 AM

We will have to see what the new sales numbers are for 2019. Motorola is currently only selling phones where they are profitable. Some of the profitability comes from layoffs at Motorola. Which will also hurt in the long run. Due to the lack of innovation.

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2019-08-23, 2:52 AM

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We will have to see what the new sales numbers are for 2019. Motorola is currently only selling phones where they are profitable. Some of the profitability comes from layoffs at Motorola. Which will also hurt in the long run. Due to the lack of innovation.


We're waiting on that foldable RAZR.

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2019-08-23, 2:53 AM

The cameras on the Moto Z4 are not half as good as the cameras on the Moto Z3. Do me a favor walk into a Best buy and test out some of the newer phones like your pixel, Galaxy, LG, Apple, and get back with me.

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2019-08-23, 2:54 AM

In late 2018 Motorola let a lot of people go so in 2018 you're going to show a profit.

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2019-08-23, 2:57 AM

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We will have to see what the new sales numbers are for 2019. Motorola is currently only selling phones where they are profitable. Some of the profitability comes from layoffs at Motorola. Which will also hurt in the long run. Due to the lack of innovation.


What do you think Motorola should do? 

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2019-08-23, 2:59 AM

With a mid-range processor

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In late 2017 Motorola let a lot of people go so in 2018 you're going to show a profit.


True, Lenovo did force some layoffs in 2017.  Which is always unfortunate and extremely hard on those affected.  But I disagree that was the main reason for profit increases.  The Moto G6 sold like hotcakes all over the world.

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2019-08-23, 3:11 AM

Motorola Layoffs 2018

Motorola Mobility (Lenovo) just tapped 50% of their Chicago workforce on the shoulder to let them know they are being laid off. Their expected last day of work is April 6, 2018. Sad... and to think this was my dream job getting out of college.

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2019-08-23, 3:56 AM

One of the main reasons for me being upset and vocal about Motorola is because I understand a little bit about, how the cell phone industry runs. One of the reasons why a company might choose to only offer mid-range phones is because of long term cost of a device. Not just point of sale but by offering mid-range phones you're not obligated to have security updates or timely Android updates which also saves money.

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2019-08-23, 12:24 PM

Have you compared both in low lighting situations? I think this is a first moto phone since 2010 that has a camera that can compete. 

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2019-08-23, 22:47 PM

I have to make an update to my last post

 

Release date: 08/22/2019
Android™ Security Patch Level: August 1, 2019
Software Version: PDF29.105-25-20

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