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Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-05-20, 8:51 AM

---Disable pcie 04:00.0 during boot; fibocom card does disabled and not visible under lspci. But USB interface does not on.

---Tape off PCIE pins 41,43,47,49 on L850-GL card (using 0.024mm tape, width 2.5mm, front side), UEFI report unauthorized device before boot.

 

So at this moment, Fibocom won't be able to run under Linux, unless:

 

1) Lenovo provide BOIS update that can disable wwan pcie intertace, or

2) Intel provide pcie linux driver

 

Fibocom will NOT work, so don't order if you intend to run it under Linux.

 

Also, Qualcom 7455 card will not work with x1y3. It is not on the white list.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-06-02, 7:28 AM

I have the same problem. Hopefully lenovo will bring a solution asap...

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-06-23, 1:05 AM

Just bought a brandnew, completely maxed out Carbon X1 Gen6. Purgin useless Windows and installing Linux is the first thing I did on boot and now I have no WWAN which I paid for and therefore are legally entitled to the functionality of this feature.

 

I urge you Lenovo to fix the issue and provide support for the most used and most reliable Operating System in the ICT industry.

 

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-07-09, 11:20 AM

Disappointing to say the least!  I just replaced my reliable but older Thinkpad X220 with a well configured Carbon Gen 6 - The fact that the sleep modes, LTE card and fingerprint reader are Windows specific is disappointing considering Thinkpads/Lenovos history of being compatible with Linux.  When you go to the manufacturers page for the Fibocomm L850-GL it states "OS Driver:Win10/Android*/Linux/Chrome OSHere

 

**bleep** - Why can't we have the Linux drivers??

 

Same with fingerprint reader!

 

And the sleep issue could be easily recolved if Lenovo simply changes the BIOS to support the older S03 state for compatibility.

 

Shameful - I'm starting to regret my purchase.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-07-26, 22:49 PM

Would be really nice to have it working on Linux, but for me it even doesn't work on Windows: https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/ThinkPad-X-Series-Laptops/X1-Carbon-6th-Gen-WWAN-SIM-not-detected/td-p/4128734 .

 

So as someone already pointed out, it is not worth buying this laptop just for this feature, at least for now.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-07-30, 3:37 AM

Just wanted to chime in and say that I am also facing this issue.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-08-02, 5:54 AM
There is a lot of "buzzing" industry wide about this situation... I am unsure what will become of it.

HP, Dell and others that adopted the Fibocom platform are having similar issues from what I have been told.

For now - go with what works, and wait to see what "fixes" are applied.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-16, 19:04 PM

Hi Lenovo,

 

We just need one more bios option for the X1C6 to work in linux.  Version 1.30 with the s3 support has really helped.  But we simply need one more option to force the WWAN card into USB mode and need the Bios to allow boot up in this mode as well.

 

The drivers exist for this card in this mode, we are so close.

 

I have contacted Fibocom in China and they claim that this is your fault for not having this capability.

 

Please let us know if you can help!

 

To everyone else - what are other new laptops that come with this capability that confirmed work in linux.  I bought this computer last summer and am wishing to use the wwan in linux since then.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-19, 17:18 PM

Bumping this, hoping to get a reply from Lenovo.

 

This card is in all new Lenovo laptops.  X series Yoga, T480, etc.

 

We would really like this to work in Linux.  Please let us know if Lenovo can support us in this mission.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-19, 19:03 PM

I got a Lenovo version of Sierra Wireless EM7565 (1103489, Lenovo PN SW10M73253) and found at least it is not on the white list of X1 Yoga 20LD. So at this time I can say Fibocom L850-GL, FRU 01AX786 is the only one on the white list. Rumor about EM7565 is not true.

 

As a matter of fact, EM7565 has not been approved by FCC.  Probably will never.

 

Fibocom L850 is indeed a Lenovo problem, it is Lenovo that blocks the access to USB port.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-21, 14:25 PM

Same, here... Wating on Lenovo for a fix...

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-22, 12:39 PM

scared it might be a long wait...I am quite regretting the purchase

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-26, 20:37 PM

Would love to have an update from Lenovo.   Any chance they even read these forums?

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-27, 18:20 PM

This is a peer to peer forum, users helping users in here.... As for Lenovo making a driver - that is the hardware manufacture's responsability not Lenovo's.  Go after Fibocom for the driver, it makes more sense.

 

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-27, 20:37 PM

Have contacted Fibocom. They claim they have a driver and that it is Lenovo’s responsibility to ensure that the driver works.

 

So we are in a bit of a pickle.  The driver exists but the card needs to be set to USB mode in the bios. This option is not in the menu for the bios.  This effects x1c6, T480, and X1 yoga, maybe others as well.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-27, 22:44 PM

 wrote:

This is a peer to peer forum, users helping users in here.... As for Lenovo making a driver - that is the hardware manufacture's responsability not Lenovo's.  Go after Fibocom for the driver, it makes more sense.

 

CB


As a matter of fact, Lenovo is the one to be blamed. It is Lenovo who blocks the access to USB port at UEFI level. While Intel woking on XMM7360 PCI-USB bridge driver, we, the end users at least have an option to run L850 under linux if Lenovo did not block USB access.

 

I doubt opening access to USB will affect FCCID. L850-GL FCCID was certified under PICe, USB2.0 and USB3.0.

 

 

 

 

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-28, 6:03 AM

Drivers for add in cards (WiFi, Graphics Cards, etc...) are not Lenovo's responsibility, they are the responsibility of the manufacture (Intel, AMD, etc...) to provide Lenovo with certified drivers for Windows and if they so choose Linux operating systems integration.   Microsoft and the Linux (your distro of choice) Operating System developers will also be responsible for any generic drivers that they choose to supply - as long as the manufacture follows the API interface specs for the respective OS.

 

When someone states that Lenovo is responsible for making drivers for WiFi cards and other add in options is like stating Chevy is responsible for a Kenwood car stereo installed by Car Toys.  Essentially - the only thing Lenovo can do is provide you with a choice of optional parts that "may" work with Linux... Ultimately the end user is responsible for making sure that all the hardware installed into a computer will be "workable" with their chosen OS.  If you can look into the manual for your notebook (Maintenance Manual) and look up the parts list for replacement WiFi cards - choose an Intel card as they are the most Linux friendly of the bunch...  Second to that would be Broadcom as most Linux distros support them.

 

Last choice would be to jump on the Linux distro's forums and see if anyone has had good results with a WiFi card found in the parts listings for your notebook.  Researching options before purchasing is always going to be the best option to exercise.

 

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-28, 15:25 PM

When someone states that Lenovo is responsible for making drivers for WiFi cards and other add in options is like stating Chevy is responsible for a Kenwood car stereo installed by Car Toys.

I think that's a quite horrible comparison with the current situation. This would be a more accurate comparison: I am buying a BMW (Lenovo) and there is a SatNav with Simcard in it (Fibocom), but in 95% of the world (Internet aka Unix Infrastructure) it won't run, because BMW forgot to mention that the SatNav supports only Seattle area (Microsoft).

 

I am working in a team of 30 IT/Software Engineers for the top tier financial institution of europe. 95% of or team uses Linux or Unix-based computers to write, test and maintain our Web-/Linux-/Kubernetes-based code. If Lenovo does not provide working product for Unix/Linux-based Environments I will simply switch back to MacOS where Unix is properly supported.

 

I don't  give a rats ass about who or what is responsible for mal-functioning product. Me, as the buyer IS NOT RESPONSIBLE for mal-functioning product.

 

Lenovo delivers mal functioning product. The only option for non-working product is to throw it into /dev/null.

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-28, 15:37 PM

Look at my previous past (#5) - According to the Fibocom website, their are supposed to be linux drivers availabe somewhere - but Lenovo doesn't help us get them.  If Lenovo is offering their product with these compnents and won't support Linux users, it's time to move on . . .

 

It's a real shame . . .

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-28, 15:43 PM
Fibocom does not make Linux drivers, they only state that "someone else came up with them for linux" off my chat with the support team on 10/1 of this year.

The point I was making is this - Lenovo is not the one responsible for creating drivers for third party hardware, even for Windows. They can only provide what is included with the hardware from the hardware manufacture.

If you want to use a driver from some other source, good for you - but it will not be a "officially supported" option - meaning you will have limited choices when it comes to support options.

If you can find a driver for Linux for the Fibocom hardware - GREAT!

Just be sure to research the creator of the driver, ping them for support or help if needed,

CB

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Re: Linux status of Fibocom L850-Gl

2018-10-28, 16:30 PM

On their own website it states OS Driver:  Win10/Android*/Linux/Chrome OS

 

Fibocom Website 

 

It's Lenovo's responsibility as laptop manufacturer to guarantee that all selected components (screen, graphics, ssd, etc) work correctly under the "supported" operating systems.  IBM Thinkpad (now Lenovo) series were famous for supporting Linux on their devices.

 

If Lenovo knows that the Fibocom device has no linus drivers, they should state so an offer an alternative which does!  I did a bunch of homework BEFORE I made my expensive purchase for the Carbon Gen 6 laptop - and I checked the website of Fibocom in advance before I made my decision.  I can understand when the finderprint sensor doesn't work - but this is serious because I need LTE access also under Linux! 

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