09-05-2018 11:30 PM
Its not at all pointless to urge Lenovo to ask its supplier (the hardware manufacturer in this particular case) to provide drivers for a common OS. Selecting the manufacturer to provide a subsystem is clearly Lenovo's responsibility.
Because there is no such option for most laptop vendors in the reality. First, Apple acquired AuthenTec, Lenovo then had to use Validity. Now Validity was acquired by Synaptics, which turned down every Linux user.
Same thing happened for the LTE module -- until now we still do not see any main street vendors use EM7565. And this is the begining of the long long discussion about how to enable Fibocom L850 under Linux here..
As I said before: You don't have to use Synaptics fingerprinter reader. Just keep on using old laptop, or typing in your password everytime. It is still the same world and the same Linux.
09-08-2018 09:57 AM
09-10-2018 10:34 AM
Yes, indeed, this is so true.
Market demand will create improved solutions.
Definitely Lenovo as one of the major players is able to urge it's suppliers to change and to unleash
the full potential of their wonderfull laptop equipment under Linux, especially fingerprint user friendly access as my humble case.
Users wo can live with keyboard access, and they still exist within linux community to a large extent, do not need it of course, no point in convincing others to go back to the former times.
So, yes Lenovo, if you value this part of the Linux community, please find a solution with your suppliers. If the group who need it is to small, I would'nt bother either. But maybe fair to mention which features are not Linux supported announcing new products.
I learned the hard way, and it's not the most customer friendly way.
09-10-2018 01:49 PM
What it boils down to is market influence, not pressure. Microsoft is the gorilla in the marketplace, and it shows. Getting Linux acceptance has always been an uphill battle, with 2 steps forward one step back it seems.
Fingerprint readers and such are a "convenient tool" not a required hardware solution. The better security is to have a strong password and rotation practice over biometrics.
09-23-2018 12:35 PM
I wanted to register to express my displeasure with the inability to use Linux on newer thinkpads and have everything work. Linux compatability is the reason i've always looked at the Thinkpad line of Lenovos. After this, and 0 response from Lenovo I'll be choosing a company that embraces Linux for all my future purchases for myself and my company. I reccomend you all do the same.
It may surprise you to learn that even System76 does not guarantee all hardware devices are supported by Linux. I had this experience with System76 some years ago. (Sorry I do not remember the exact details now, but their answer shocked me. It was the same answer I would have gotten from a non-Linux company.) All of these manufacturers will experience similar issues with some hardware. I find System76 overpriced. And while I agree with you in general, I also find Lenovo does better than most when it comes to Linux support and I do not find Lenovo to be any worse than Dell or System76. That's just my experience.
I do think we should keep voicing our desire for better Linux support. What I personally do is every single time Lenovo asks me to fill out a survery (which is quite often), I mention that Linux support is important to me.
09-23-2018 12:48 PM
I have created a repo for initial analyzis and such: https://github.com/nmikhailov/Validity90
Also added a Gitter for chatting: https://gitter.im/Validity90/Lobby?utm_source=share-link&utm_medium=link&utm_campaign=share-link
What is the status? I don't see any recent activity, but that may be because I'm not looking in the right place.