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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-17, 7:06 AM

I set the timeout style explicitly to menu, and the timeout to -1 (i.e. infinity) and still no grub menu. This is some weird stuff. I think I will remove pop_os and go with a either fedora or ubuntu. 

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-17, 20:17 PM

Installed ubunti18.04 and everything works. Managed the DSDT patching, editing grub, grub menu showing, sleeping, all if it.

 

Dunno **bleep** pop_os had done to keep grub hidden and make all my grub changes ignored, but I can just use the theme with ubuntu anyway. Now I really like this laptop. Did the lenovo_fix for the throttling too. All good.

 

Thanks all for the help.

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-18, 8:29 AM

@Rydeen given it affects so many peoples, could Lenovo contribute Si03 support into the Linux kernel?

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 8:52 AM

After applying the DSDT patch (running Fedora 28) I am experiencing problems from now and on with the touchpad/trackpad. They become completely unresponsive. Rebooting does not solve it. To get them working again I need to power cycle the laptop...

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 12:30 PM

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After applying the DSDT patch (running Fedora 28) I am experiencing problems from now and on with the touchpad/trackpad. They become completely unresponsive. Rebooting does not solve it. To get them working again I need to power cycle the laptop...


I'm having the exact same problem under Ubuntu 18.04. After waking up, trackapad and trackpoint don't work, the xinput command doesn't even show these devices...

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 13:04 PM

Thanks for the information. I have now reverted back to the old S2idle mode (acpi.ec_no_wakeup=1) in grub setting.

 

Whine below..

 

I am seriously considering returning my laptop. It is a great device (hardware) but if you can't get the hardware+software to work together then it becomes a brick. It feels annoying getting ignored by the Lenovo team as they don't care about the Linux users. I know what computer brand I won't recommend in the future.. :catsurprised:

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 13:14 PM

I returned mine.

 

Then I bought another one, when the model designation incremented.

 

I had the issue you describe with my original x1c6 20KG. The 20KH with the latest 1.27 BIOS, ubuntu 18.04, DSDT patch, and acpi.no_wakeup=1, the script for thermal throtlling, and numerous other tweaks, is pretty nice.

 

That it seems to be a lottery if you get a machine you can use is totally unforgivable. I have an x270 (just works, always) and an x230 (just works, always). Maybe when the x1c7 comes out the gen6 will be a dependable machine.

 

Still nothing beats my MBPr 15 from 2013, but even that can't last forever.

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 13:42 PM

Did you return your after the return period? If so, was there any problems? I guess this would be a RMA in my case. 

(I bought directly from Lenovo.)

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 14:18 PM

I know what computer brand I won't recommend in the future.. :catsurprised:

 

To be fair it's not Lenovo's fault that no Linux kernel supports Si03 yet. It's just that they're not actively producing a custom BIOS for Linux.

 

I first bought an XPS 9370 but the keyboard was an absolute joke that doesn't allow you to type faster than ~60 WPM, otherwise keystrokes start getting not registered. And it's not a single case, but an inherent hardware fault of *all* Dell laptops of that generation. Simply absurd. You may search online to see if you can find the thread. Returned it in no time.

 

Then, given the dismal state with Apple and their MBP. I don't know what brand would you recommend if you think Lenovo is a brand you "won't recommend in the future". Getting an ultrabook just right is hard. Apple got it with the old MBP but then they don't give a **bleep** anymore. I'm still very satisfied with my X1C6 so far.

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Re: X1 Carbon Gen 6 cannot enter deep sleep (S3 state aka Suspend-to-RAM) on Linux

2018-08-19, 14:28 PM
Ok, I agree to some extent that it's not Lenovo's "fault". I agree that getting an ultrabook just right is hard but it doesn't help if the vendor isn't helpful in this matter. They should just put some more interest in the Linux community after all the feedback that they have received.

I should have reasearched more and waited a bit more before buying this laptop. Overall I am happy with the device, but it feels bad having to use all these workarounds on a high priced working machine.

I was with Apple before and I jumped here because of the leap of hardware performance.
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