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ryukotsei
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System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

Hi,

I have applied the ADM file to my 2012 Active Directory. It puts it under Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > ThinkVantage > System Update. The pdf guide says it's supposed to go: Computer Configuration > Administrative Templates > ThinkVantage > System Update. Either way, I only see Scheduler Lock under UserSettings > Scheduler. I am looking to use the ThinInstaller and Update Retriever to silently deploy updates. I'm not seeing anyone running into this on the forums.

 

Any clues? I just applied the ADM template to AD. It is the most current ADM template and I added it following the instructions.

ryukotsei
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

UPDATE: I got the policy to show up under the regular Administrative Templates by adding the admx and adml to PolicyDefinitions folder. I am still unable to see anything else under Scheduler though.

 

UPDATE2: It seems that ThinInstaller does not work with the scheduler group policy. I'm ok with using the full System Update but still don't have all group policy settings for scheduling.

policeman52
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

Hi, 

Did you ever find a solution to this? I'm running into the same thing where the scheduler group policy is not showing all of the options under Scheduler.

sclexman
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

Thin installer does not use any registry entries, nor does it have a scheduler function.

The ADM template Lenovo supplies adds only the SchedulerLock entry to the GPO.

CATEGORY "UserSettings"
VALUENAME "SchedulerLock" ITEMLIST NAME "HIDE" VALUE "HIDE" DEFAULT NAME "SHOW" VALUE "SHOW"

Actual registry values are:

This setting enables you to show, hide, disable, or lock
the Schedule updates option in the System Update user
interface.
• If SHOW, the Schedule updates option is available in
the left navigation pane.
• If HIDE, the Schedule updates option is not visible
to the end user.
• If DISABLE, the Schedule updates option in the left
navigation pane is displayed but appears dimmed.
• If LOCK, the Schedule updates panel can be opened,
but the settings in it are disabled and cannot be changed.

Any setting/value NOT set in the GPO override uses the value in the registry. 

If you had all the scheduler overrides in the GPO, you will still have to enable the task scheduler option in SU to create the windows task scheduler entry.

 

Before windows 7, SU had its own TVSU task scheduler.

My theory is: If you are controlling updates on the machine, you would not want your user to run SU monthly updates via the windows task scheduler. Your vision might be different.

 

Registry entry:

su reg.PNG

 

 Note: The SU deployment guide was last updated in 2014.  It needs a new update.

policeman52
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

Nice, thanks.  I was just making sure there wasn't an .admx file with the settings that I was missing.

 

Another question, are you then running the Admininistrator Command from the registery then under UserSettings\General?

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sclexman
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

When you run SU on a win pro system, with GPO, it uses the GPO values 1st.  If  value not found, it uses the registry value.  GPO always overrides registry.

sclexman
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

Lenovo doc does not match ADM and ADMX.

 

policeman52
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

That was... Something. 

Thanks I guess. 

jbarker
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Re: System Update 5.0 Group Policy Scheduler settings missing

What did you end up doing with regard to scheduling updates? I'm running into the same issue...

 

I'm wondering whether I should modify the .admx (if that would even work), or if it's easier to create and push a windows task to client computers that runs a script?

 

Something like:

%PROGRAMFILES(X86)%\Lenovo\System Update\Tvsu.exe /CM -search A -action INSTALL -repository \\networkshare\lenovo\drivers -includerebootpackages 1,3,4 -noreboot

 

Frustrating because the documentation for 5.0 clearly lists multiple GP Settings that do not exist in the admx. Not sure if that's because they're no longer supported or because the admx is incomplete.

Might be worth noting that I downloaded the System Update 3.16 Admin Tools, and the adm file included DOES have the scheduler options included. Note sure what to make of that.

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