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cmattern
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Message 1 of 28

T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Will there be BIOS updates for the T410 to address the Meltdown and Spectre vulnerabilities? I have checked in the T400/T500 forum and was told:

 

Please watch this page: https://support.lenovo.com/us/en/solutions/len-18282 for developing information.

 

There is no mention on the T410 in that thread although other models are listed as pending or with ETAs. Will the T410 be updated?

 

Thanks

Luc_T410
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Message 2 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

The sad thing is that Lenovo don't need to do a full BIOS upgrade/patch for every BIOS only a old microcode replace/add.

Will be better and easy for anybody if Lenovo release the sw tool for microcode update so anybody interested can upgrade microcode when will require on the actual BIOS.

Fujitsu-Siemens that develop & sell IT equipments for corporate already include such a tool for a very long time ago.

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Message 3 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Hello,

 

This is a reply to someone I gave with a different model, but in a similar situation:

 

https://forums.lenovo.com/t5/Security-Malware/BIOS-updates-for-Meltdown-and-Spectre/m-p/3945092#M307...

 

Does that help answer your question?

 

Regards,

 

Aryeh Goretsky



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cmattern
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Message 4 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Hey Aryeh,

It does help to keep the fluid nature of the situation in mind. I work in IT as well and find myself constantly updating my own customers as it evolves. But my root question is whether Lenovo is going to offer an update to the T410 or has declared it EOL. There are several models listed as pending or pulled back, the T410 is not listed at all. If it is EOL I'd be disappointed but understanding, you can only do so much... Just wondering if I need to start shopping.
Luc_T410
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Message 5 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Solution to update BIOS flash microcode for T410/T510 !

 

EDIT:

Tutorial deleted since most of the people here are just looking for one click solution and don't have the knowledge to do it herself.

 

Done !

 

my result before and after bios flash with microcode update 0F:

2018-01-06 22.17.14.jpgMicrocode v D from latest flash2018-01-17 18.33.52.jpgMicrocode v F after changed microcode file and flash2018-01-17 18.36.04.jpgMicrocode v F after changed microcode file and flash2018-01-17 18.36.16.jpgBIOS version

cmattern
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Message 6 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

6iuj29us.exe, which delivers 1.45 is was rleased 3/23/13 and I would be more than a little surprised if it addresses Meltdown & Spectre.

 

Again, not a complaint. I love my T410 and would like to keep it in service but if T410 will not be updated to address Meltdown & Spectre then I just need to know and I'l start shopping for a new device. Ideally it would be another Lenovo but the difficulty I'm having in getting a straight answer on this is making me rethink my preferences.

 

All I'm looking for is a straight answer.

Luc_T410
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Message 7 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

If intel will not release new microcode patch for that old CPUs to address Spectre problem nobody can do anything as microcode data are Intel proprietary.

After Intel release the new microcode anybody who understand my tutorial will be able to patch his computer without other help.

 

dmesg | grep microcode
[    1.102495] microcode: CPU0 sig=0x20652, pf=0x10, revision=0xf
[    1.102511] microcode: CPU1 sig=0x20652, pf=0x10, revision=0xf
[    1.102521] microcode: CPU2 sig=0x20652, pf=0x10, revision=0xf
[    1.102536] microcode: CPU3 sig=0x20652, pf=0x10, revision=0xf
[    1.102614] microcode: Microcode Update Driver: v2.01 
<tigran@aivazian.fsnet.co.uk>, Peter Oruba

cat /proc/cpuinfo
processor	: 0
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 6
model		: 37
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 520  @ 2.40GHz
stepping	: 2
microcode	: 0xf
cpu MHz		: 2400.000
cache size	: 3072 KB
physical id	: 0
siblings	: 4
core id		: 0
cpu cores	: 2
apicid		: 0
initial apicid	: 0
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 11
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm kaiser tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm ida arat
bugs		:
bogomips	: 4788.26
clflush size	: 64
cache_alignment	: 64
address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor	: 1
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 6
model		: 37
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 520  @ 2.40GHz
stepping	: 2
microcode	: 0xf
cpu MHz		: 2400.000
cache size	: 3072 KB
physical id	: 0
siblings	: 4
core id		: 0
cpu cores	: 2
apicid		: 1
initial apicid	: 1
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 11
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm kaiser tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm ida arat
bugs		:
bogomips	: 4788.26
clflush size	: 64
cache_alignment	: 64
address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor	: 2
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 6
model		: 37
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 520  @ 2.40GHz
stepping	: 2
microcode	: 0xf
cpu MHz		: 2400.000
cache size	: 3072 KB
physical id	: 0
siblings	: 4
core id		: 2
cpu cores	: 2
apicid		: 4
initial apicid	: 4
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 11
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm kaiser tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm ida arat
bugs		:
bogomips	: 4788.26
clflush size	: 64
cache_alignment	: 64
address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

processor	: 3
vendor_id	: GenuineIntel
cpu family	: 6
model		: 37
model name	: Intel(R) Core(TM) i5 CPU       M 520  @ 2.40GHz
stepping	: 2
microcode	: 0xf
cpu MHz		: 2400.000
cache size	: 3072 KB
physical id	: 0
siblings	: 4
core id		: 2
cpu cores	: 2
apicid		: 5
initial apicid	: 5
fpu		: yes
fpu_exception	: yes
cpuid level	: 11
wp		: yes
flags		: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss ht tm pbe syscall nx rdtscp lm constant_tsc arch_perfmon pebs bts rep_good nopl xtopology nonstop_tsc aperfmperf pni pclmulqdq dtes64 monitor ds_cpl vmx smx est tm2 ssse3 cx16 xtpr pdcm sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes lahf_lm kaiser tpr_shadow vnmi flexpriority ept vpid dtherm ida arat
bugs		:
bogomips	: 4788.26
clflush size	: 64
cache_alignment	: 64
address sizes	: 36 bits physical, 48 bits virtual
power management:

My advice for you is to start looking for another new computer.

cmattern
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Message 8 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Thanks for the process as well as the advice! 

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Message 9 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Luc_T410, I'm not looking for one click solution. Please share the tutorial.

Luc_T410
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Message 10 of 28

Re: T410 Meltdown & Spectre remediation

Until now there is no new microcode that adress meltdown/spectre for T410 old cpu I5-5xxM/I7-6xxM.

 

My tutorial can be found here...

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