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zbliang
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M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

Have my eyes on both models for a while. The main difference as I can tell they use difffernt Chipset: M710 -B250 Chipset, M910-Q270 Chipset. They both supports M.2 NVMe SSD which I will use as the OS drive unlike the M700/M900 pair. I prabably won't need V-pro as this will be my personal desktop at home.

 

My question is that is there any reason that I should consider M910 over M710 tiny for my home usage? I know there are more 24 PCIe lanes on the Q270 Chipset over that 12 lanes on B250. But I don't think M910 tiny took advantage of that, am I right?

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny


@zbliang wrote:

Have my eyes on both models for a while. The main difference as I can tell they use difffernt Chipset: M710 -B250 Chipset, M910-Q270 Chipset. They both supports M.2 NVMe SSD which I will use as the OS drive unlike the M700/M900 pair. I probably won't need V-pro as this will be my personal desktop at home.


You are correct, the big M.2 storage support difference has been mitigated, and the M910 appears to be positioned mainly for corporate/business use, with V-Pro and only i5 & i7 processors available (the M710 has processors from G4400T to i7-7700T -- although I would highly recommend getting at least a processor with 2 core/4 thread.)  

For home use, I don't see any reason to buy the M910 over the M710.   And I recommend getting a Kaby Lake processor (7xxx model number) with Win 10 (the older Skylake processors are there for Win 7 compatibility.) 

 

f-M710 spec.png

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

For anyone else that comes across this thread before purchasing: the m910 supports 3 internal drives (1 SATA, 2 nvme) while the m710 only supports 2 (1  SATA, 1 nvme). This may or may not affect someone's decision, I guess it depends what they're using the PC for. 

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

I hoped I knew this information when I decided to buy the M710. It would be a decent upgrade to buy the M910 to have an additional nvme slot for SSD.
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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny


@JoeGarfield wrote:

For anyone else that comes across this thread before purchasing: the m910 supports 3 internal drives (1 SATA, 2 nvme) while the m710 only supports 2.


This should be clarified.

 

The M910 motherboard has three SATA 3.0 connectors (e.g. for two internal 2.5" SATA HDD/SSD drives plus one SATA CD/DVD or perhaps a third HDD/SSD) and one eSATA connector (for hot swappable external SATA drive).

 

There are also two M.2 slots (for NVMe) on the motherboard, but one is specifically described as for an "M.2 storage drive", and the other is described as for an "M.2 WiFi card".  According to BiggAl's reply on this other related thread questioning whether the M.2 WiFi slot can alternatively be used for M.2 storage instead, "Slots designed for WiFi are keyed (notched) differently than storage.   WiFi uses an A and E key, storage uses B and M, and cards are sometimes keyed for both B and M.   Because of the keys, cards cannot be put into the wrong slot."

 

I believe this answer implies that there actually is only one (not two) M.2 slot which actually can be used for an M.2 NVMe storage card, with the other one reserved specifically for an M.2 WiFi card.

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

 

I believe this answer implies that there actually is only one (not two) M.2 slot which actually can be used for an M.2 NVMe storage card, with the other one reserved specifically for an M.2 WiFi card.


I believe you are conflating the M910 SFF (& Tower) motherboard with the Tiny motherboard, which is completely different.   In one of the other Tiny threads, is a photo of a M910x Tiny with two SSD cards installed in the M.2 slots designed for them.   M710q (and M910q) Tiny has only one slot provisioned (there was considerable confusion on this after a Lenovo support specialist wrote that it could support 2, it does not, and is one of the few important differences.)

 

f-m910 m.2 ssd.jpgM910 Tiny with two M.2 SDD installed (M710 Tiny has only one slot provisioned)

 CORRECTION:  only the M910x has two slots for M.2 SSD cards.  Both the M710q and M910q have one slot.  

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

Yeah, this thread is about m910 Tiny vs m710 Tiny. Not the larger PCs.

 

Lenovo did themselves and us a disservice by using common model numbers across different platforms. Sure, there's a 'q' at the end, but it's not enough to substantially differentiate the models.

 

m710 Tiny has 1 single slot for M.2 pcie drive, m910 appears to have 2 slots for M.2 pcie drive. 

 

M.2 pcie slots for wireless communication do not support memory drives.

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

Sorry to have confused things. You're right, my mistake. I was for sure looking at the HMM for the M910t (which I've bought), not the tiny.

 

Mea culpa.

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

BigAll, please permit me to jump in and ask a question. I very much appreciated the orignal question. I have gone over and over and over again the configuration choices in the Model 910 tiny and the Model 710 tiny, and for the life of me, I simply can see no differences at all in the options. Yet, I get a different outcome in the amount of money for each unit.  What gives???? I am driving myself crazy with this and have spent untold amounts of time trying to figure all this out. I swear, I get a different answer on different days. I sure wish Lenovo did a better (or any) job of explaining the differences in choices and what the options mean, i.e., the different WiFi LAN choices. Man, how do I know??!! First, I had to figure out that the computer didn't even come with WiFi.  (Right?) I'm still not sure, but I'm assuming not as there is an option for that. Please HELP. Thank you.

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Re: M710 tiny vs M910 tiny

The major differences are vPro, and that the M910x can accommodate two M.2 SDD cards.  For a system to be vPro manageable, the Wireless adapter must also support vPro if using Wireless (which could explain adapter offering  differences.)  For some organizations, vPro management is of considerable benefit.   I am not aware of cases where that is true for home use.  

 

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