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edrachman
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Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

I got an identical replacement Lenovo motherboard for my Lenovo M93p -Type 10A7 mini-tower Model # A01400 and now it works fine!

 

‎I would like to upgrade the hard drive and to use a solid state device.

 

Is it possible to fit and run a Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD device in the M93p?

 

Thank you,

Philip

 

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

NVMe is not supported.  You would need M900 or newer.  You could do a 2.5" SATA SSD. 

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

OK.

 

I installed a Kingston SSD A400 120 GB SATA SSD with Windows 7 OS - it doesn't seem very fast!

 

Is there an SSD that works better with the M93p?

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

While the M93p tower machine itself doesn't support NVMe M.2 drives, I would bet you can use something like this PCIe-to-NVMe adapter card from StarTech.

 

The M93p motherboard has a second x16 PCIe slot that is negotiable to x4 or x1.  This StarTech adapter card would use it as x4, thus providing support for Samsung 950/960 Pro NVMe M.2 drives.  I can't speak for the new 970 drives but I don't know why they wouldn't work too.

 

The daughterboard card uses the PCIe x4 bus and thus would provide M.2 NVMe performance to your machine.

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

Does the PSU provide enough power to support this?

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

This add-on PCIe card takes virtually no additional power I would imagine, as does the inserted M.2 card.  I believe these M.2 NVMe drives consume something like 6W.

 

Any card inserted into a PCIe slot cannot exceed 75W maximum draw, as that is the maximum provided by the PCIe bus. This is typically the case on Lenovo tower machines that include 250W-280W PSU's.  But in SFF machines with small PSU's there is often a lesser maximum allowed in PCIe slots, say 45W max.

 

But in the case of this StarTech daughtercard with an M.2 SSD drive inserted, I am guessing there is absolutely no PSU consideration at all. There is really no consideration installing a low-power (i.e. 30W up to <75W) graphics card upgrade in the primary PCIe x16 slot, and there surely is no consideration in installing this StarTech card plus an M.2 NVMe SSD in it.

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

Ok - I will try it out and get back to you during the summer with results.

 

Thank you!

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

Would there be any performance difference between running the current Kingston A400 Sata SSDS with Windows 10 Pro v. 1803 versus the NVME M2 SSD option suggested?

 

According to HD Tune Pro the current sata SSD gives a bench mark average read speed of 322 Mb/s 

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

Can't speak firsthand about the hardware you're discussing.

 

But I can provide results from CrystalDiskMark5 from my P70 laptop running Win10 v. 1803, which has a 2.5" Samsung 850 Pro SATA3 SSD (similar to the Kingston A400) as well as two Samsung 950 Pro NVMe SSD's. The results confirm the generally experienced results of NVMe being up to about 5 times faster than SATA3. This should apply pretty much equally to your M93p situation.

 

Here's the SATA3 benchmark.

 

Crystal_Samsung-850-Pro-no-rapid-mode.jpg

 

Here is the NVMe result.

 

Crystal_Samsung-950-Pro_D.jpg

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Re: Samsung 970 EVO 250GB - NVMe PCIe M.2 2280 SSD (MZ-V7E250BW) or similarly fast SSD work in M93p?

Ok - I just received Startech X4 PCIe expansion card to M.2 PCIe SSD adaptor and Samsung 500 GB 970 EVO Plus NVMe M2 SSD.

 

I installed Windows 10 1809 from a USB drive onto the new Samsung SSD, but am unable to boot into Windows 10 from this SSD. 

 

It appears that the drive doesn't exist in BIos.

 

When I connect my 2.5" Windows 10 SSD drive - it boots up and I do see the Samsung 970 SSD drive!

 

Kindly please advise what to do in order to see and boot from the new Samsung NVME SSD.

 

Thank you very much!

Philip

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