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ChangelingChild
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What's the difference? Thinkpad E430 56U vs Thinkpad E430 AEU

Hello Lenovo community! I've had a Thinkpad for years now - it's old enough it still says IBM Thinkpad - and it's time for a new computer, so I'll be ready against the sad day this one can't handle what I need anymore. I've narrowed it down to two Thinkpads, but I can't decide between them or see what the differences between them are. Perhaps someone here knows?

The two are the Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E430 627156U and the Lenovo Thinkpad Edge E430 3254AEU. They both have 4 gigs of RAM and 500 gigs of Hard Drive space, though I think the 56U has a chiclet keyboard and the AEU has beveled. Does anyone know if the 56U has a full sized keyboard despite being chiclet? (I'm a writer, so the keyboard is a deal maker or breaker. It's also why I'm looking at 14" screens - all the 15.6" ones have that number pad and the keyboard shoved to the side. All I can see is that the keyboards are "Spill resistant", which doesn't tell me the size of the keys.)

Does anyone have any knowledge of these two machines? Or even opinions on the two?

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Re: What's the difference? Thinkpad E430 56U vs Thinkpad E430 AEU

Hey there ChangelingChild,

 

I found this threadhere that may of be some interest to you. I see in the PSRef that both machines you are looking at come with a 6-row, spill resistant, multimedia FN keys keyboard. Where are you seeing a beveled keyboard? Generally they are island style/chiclet full sized keyboards. I'm certain some our E430 users should have some feedback as well.

 

E430: 6271-56U

i5-3210M(2.5Ghz), 4GB RAM, 500GB 7200rpm HD, 14in 1366x768 LCD, Intel HD 4000 Graphics, CDRW/DVDRW, 802.11bgn wireless,Bluetooth, 1Gb Ethernet, UltraNav, Fingerprint reader, Camera, 6c Li-Ion, Win7 Pro 64

 

E430: 3254-AEU

i5-2450M(2.5GHz), 4GB RAM,500GB 7200rpm HD,14in 1366x768 LCD,Intel HD 3000 Graphics,CDRW/DVDRW,Intel 802.11bgn wireless,Bluetooth,1Gb Ethernet,UltraNav,Fingerprint reader,Camera,6c Li-Ion,Win7 Pro 64 

 

It looks like the Primary difference between the machines lay with the processor, it's compatibility with RAM modules, and the integrated graphics. The 3210M appears to out perform the 2450M but you will need to take a look at this and see for yourself of the impact to your day to day performance/usage. You can see more indepth information when looking at the PSRef and comparing the two.

 

I hope this provides some information to help guide you in your decision. Good Luck, and keep us posted on your progress.



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Re: What's the difference? Thinkpad E430 56U vs Thinkpad E430 AEU

Thanks for the links, they do help. I saw the beveled keyboard on tiger direct or newegg, I'm not sure which. I had been really looking for one since it seemed like the island style keyboards all had such small keys - plus the Ideapad I'd seen had such a tiny shift key it made me worry about the keyboards on these. I tried some at a Staples, but as they didn't have these it was hard to tell - and some still felt small despite theoretically being full. I'm not even sure what kind of processor I have in this one, beyond it being a celeron. It's old enough - and has so little RAM (It came with 512 mb RAM installed, and I added a gig a year or two ago. It still works well for what I want usually though. Doesn't like playing videos anymore, but it does everything else) that either one will probably seem pretty powerful in comparison. I apologize if this is a silly question or one I could have found the answer to in the PSRef, but what difference in compatibility with RAM modules and integrated graphics? I've looked at so many computers at this point the numbers are making my head spin. >_o
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Re: What's the difference? Thinkpad E430 56U vs Thinkpad E430 AEU

Hey there ChangelingChild,

 

The RAM

According the PSRef sheets for both of these machines, both are compatible with PC3-12800 1600MHz DDR3, non-parity, dual-channel capable modules with a max of 16GB of RAM*. You would accomplish this by putting in two 8 GB sticks of RAM. The difference in compatibility with these two machines is that the E430(56U) with the i5-3210M processor is capable of using DDR3/L/-RS 1333/1600 modules, and the E430(AEU) with the i5-2450M processor is capable of using DDR3-1066/1333. The difference between these two is that L, or really DDR3L is low voltage RAM. Instead of using the typical 1.5v it can use 1.35v. It is important to note that this will really only matter if you decide to put this kind of RAM in the machine at a later date,

 

*This the maximum RAM compatible after testing at the release of the machine.

 

HD Graphics 3000 vs 4000

 

This area to be honest is not my expertise, but I have found some handy information for you to look at to give an indication of the differences. It is important to keep in mind while reviewing this the i5-3210M is a 3rd Generation Processor while the i5-2450M is a 2nd Generation.

 

Processor Graphics

Intel®   HD Graphics 3000

Intel®   HD Graphics 4000

Graphics Base Frequency

650   MHz

650 MHz

Graphics Max Dynamic Frequency

1.3   GHz

1.1 GHz

Graphics Output

eDP/DP/HDMI/SDVO/CRT

eDP/DP/HDMI/SDVO/CRT

Intel® Quick Sync Video

Yes

Yes

Intel® InTru™ 3D Technology

Yes

Yes

Intel® Insider™

Yes

Yes

Intel® Wireless Display

Yes

Yes

Intel® Flexible Display Interface (Intel® FDI)

Yes

Yes

Intel® Clear Video HD Technology

Yes

Yes

Dual Display Capable

Yes

Yes

Macrovision* License Required

No

N/A

# of Displays Supported

2

3

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now a great resource to understand what all these nifty features are is this handy reference guide by Intel.

 

Ultimately in when purchasing a machine, you want to make sure it meets your needs, for instance, the keyboard. So I certainly would go and see what machines you can put your hands on, touch and use.(I'm very the same way with my laptops and smartphones, I have to play with it see if it feels right before I can make a decision.)I can say that the Help Me Choose A PC Tool can be helpful if you would like to take a look at it. I hope this helps guide your decision.



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Re: What's the difference? Thinkpad E430 56U vs Thinkpad E430 AEU

I apologize for the long absence - my grandmother fell ill, and I was needed in the real world. As it is, I'm leaning towards the 56U, so thanks for your input! I do have another question, though (hopefully the last) - I noticed that the thinkpads on the Lenovo site can come with Windows XP Mode installed, and I just found out one of the programs I rely on - it's next on the list after writing for what I do most often - isn't compatible with Windows 7. Not really surprising, since it's a bit old, but the newer versions are geared for other uses (think making internet graphics as opposed to drawing).

 

Does a regular Thinkpad, esp the 56U, have hardware virtualization support? I don't know if just running compatibility mode would be enough. I'm assuming the ones that you can customize to come with XP Mode pre-installed would have it, but sometimes...e_e Also, how would I access the BIOS on them to enable HAV if it's there but not enabled?

 

Thanks for answering my questions so far, they've been very helpful!

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