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4K UHD display vs FHD?

2015-12-15, 12:47 PM

My current laptop (T530) has a FHD (1920x1080) display set at a resolution if 1680x1050 for comfortable viewing.  I am seriously considering a P50/70 ThinkPad and am having a difficult time deciding between a 4K UHD display (3840x2160)

vs a FHD display.  My usage does not require a UHD display however I want to "future proof" my laptop so I am leaning towards a 4K UHD display.  The additional cost of the 4K display is not the issue for me.

My concern is what issues/problems will I face when I set the UHD display to 1680x1050 to view my normal resolution when I use the laptop.  I have read numerous articles discussing the pros and cons of enlarging the resolution of a 4K UHD display vs using a FHD display.  The bottom line for me is that if I can enlarge the resolution to 1680x1050 without having issues watching videos and surfing the internet then I will opt for the 4K UHD display.

Any help and comments would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

P51, 1535M Xeon, 512GB SSD x2,64GB DDR4 ECC, Nvidia M2200M, Win 10 Pro v 2004, 4K IPS , Intel vPro, Sierra EM7455, WWAN, Model 20 HH.
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4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-05-30, 13:14 PM
Hahaha. Good question. I'm also facing this problem. But no one answer here. They should provide a function named "Invite experts to answer". LOL
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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-05-30, 14:35 PM

1920x1080 panel set to 1680x1050 is as bad as it gets: font smoothing does not work, blurry picture, and also (because panel is 16:9, and resolution is 16:10) either black bars on sides, or distorted proportions of everything.

 

You can set 4K screen to 1680x1050, and it won't be any worse. But Windows 10 + apps released in the last 5 years are a lot better at scaling than it used to be a decade ago, so you may find native 4K resolution + 250% scaling set to look massively better. 

 

The difference between 4K vs 1920x1080 on a 15" screen is neglible though. At 17.3" it's a bit more noticeable. 

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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-05-30, 17:13 PM

You'll get more answers on Reddit than here

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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-05-30, 20:31 PM

@ p600 wrote:
 

 

You can set 4K screen to 1680x1050, and it won't be any worse. But Windows 10 + apps released in the last 5 years are a lot better at scaling than it used to be a decade ago, so you may find native 4K resolution + 250% scaling set to look massively better. 

 

I agree, for most part Windows 10 does a great job scaling these days. Even Ubuntu looked OK on my 4k P53, although the boot manager did not use scaling and was difficult to read.

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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-05-31, 7:08 AM

@ chukwe wrote:
 

 

You'll get more answers on Reddit than here

 

 

Haha, but I still get some useful complain about OLED here.

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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-05-31, 14:43 PM
Screen preferences are really subjective. The fact that I like 4K screens, even on small displays, does not suggest that you will like them

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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-06-01, 12:18 PM

I had 4k display on P50 since 2015, but only this year switched from 1920x1080 to 4k.
Another aspect which often gets overlooked is that 4k is not just 4k but also physically different display and you can run it in 1080p without loosing too much as 4k and 1080p is exactly 2 by 2 pixel to one so if you run 4k in 1080 you still getting square pixels.
My 4K in P50 has way way better color representation than other one and also better brightness and that was strong reason to buy that.

Other one that - that are lots of oddities in 4k like you would not run most 3d apps in 4k - need a lot of processing power, it will be slower to refresh, eat more battery, etc.
 

 

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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-06-02, 17:09 PM

We've been using X1E1 (X1 Extreme 1st Generation) with 4k HDR OLED screen for over a year, and the battery is not great no matter how you try to tweak your system.

Good thing X1E1 charges quickly, and always keep your charger around.

Don't get us wrong; watching movies on this 4k screen is glorious!

 

But we mostly do work on our X1E1 and very little movies, and sometimes working on battery in the field.

The 4k OLED screen is glossy (despite what they claim), and its reflections may be distracting for some.

We prefer the FHD (1920x1080) IPS LCD screen for its "matt" screen instead.

 

As such, if we have a chance to do this procurement all over again, we would have gotten the FHD (1920x1080) IPS LCD model instead, mainly for a *much* better battery life.

 

ymmv, especially depending on what you do.

 

(By the way, we are VERY satisfied with our X1E1 !)

 

[Edit: Our default desktop resolution on our 4k screen ended up being: 1920x1080. Surprise! ]

 

[Edit: We've seen reports that the glass on the 4k HDR OLED screen is *glued* onto the display panel. Many years down the road this might become an issue, possibly maybe glue coming off.]


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Re:4K UHD display vs FHD?

2020-06-02, 17:37 PM

I kept to FHD on my P53 due to various reasons:

  1. Cost
  2. Battery life
  3. Bezel, I remember reading some opinions on the 4k bezels being thicker or not the same material as the FHD ones.
  4. Glossines. I like my matte screens and OLED goes back to being glass.
  5. PPI, I don't usually use my machine away from a docking station but when I do i use 125/150% scaling and that is on a FHD screen, so why waste so much energy, money, etc when I only end up scaling everything? It's sharp enough for my uses anyway.

 

This is my opinion clearly, since if there wasn't any market for 4k screens in 15" laptops there wouldn't be offerings...

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