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11-06-2013

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-11-27, 22:54 PM

Chill out guys, the thing is personally (IMO) I just think  that the cons (not just for the consumer, but also manufacturing wise), far outweigh the benefits of the size. If in the future, improvements in chip develeopoments gets us a 17 inch form factor that is as thin and lightweight as a macbook air (well, at least similar), then I'll become a fan. But that's not the case so far. The future does look bright though, so I'm not too pessimistic. And you know guys, you can always go to the other brands if you need your huge sizes (of course a Thinkpad W would be better). There is a reason manufacturers are not releasing laptops with these sizes anymore, and it's pretty simple: not enough customers. Whining on a forum won't help much...

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-11-27, 22:57 PM

You don't have to be a fan (just don't buy one), but for my particular use I don't care about the weight (within reason), as it just moves from room to room where I live and work.

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-11-28, 9:18 AM

@FJGC: You came to this thread to tell us that "the cons for the customer... far outweigh the benefits of the size" and we "can always go to the other brands"?

 

Moderator Note; unnecessary comment edited

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-12-04, 15:48 PM

That a there is a need for 17" workhorse laptops is clear, even if the market is not gigantic.

 

Dell offers a17"  M6800 Precision Workstation, which for most intents and purposes, is an updated version of the M700 series.  This box has 4 spindles (3 x 2.5" devices plus an mSata card slot) and almost everything else an M700 user could want--except the highest res. Screen is FHD -- not 4K as we would all like.  Even their inferior version of the TrackPoint.

 

Of course, is is a Dell, not a ThinkPad.  If these guys can do it, why won't Lenovo?  Perhaps because they listen more to Ashton Kutcher than their loyal customers???????

 

[Moderator note: Edited per forum rules.]

 

 

 

 

 

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-12-04, 16:10 PM

I'm using thinkpads since the butterfly keyboard(!!) and always loved the keyboard, the trackpoint, large screen resolutions and general build quality. Expensive but rock solid and reliable. I'm still working on my W701 with 17" WUXGA and after 3 years there is still no alternative....It seems lenovo is letting down ther loyal customers on the top-end of the market, why leave this niche to Dell and HP ? 
Very disappointed, the W540 keeps getting postponed: "contact your local sales rep", who btw don't have a clue either. Mailbox and facebook are spammed with ultrabook an yoga offers, but I'm waiting for a new workhorse! 
We are customers willing to pay a lot of money for a top of the bill machine, Lenovo, please do not moderate forum posts away and give us an honest roadmap and explanations for current delays!

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-12-04, 16:14 PM
Amen. I agree with you 100% and have posted this same message at least a dozen times over the last few years, in various
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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2013-12-04, 18:29 PM

@practical: Thank you. I used to be a really happy customer of Lenovo for many years. The W701ds was absolute happiness, years ahead of the competition. The fact that, despite its age, it is still unsurpassed, reflects a pathetic situation of the (Windows) high-end laptop industry. The best, brand new, competing 17" workstation out there (the "New Dell M6800") offers a lower screen pixel count than the now-ancient W700-series (not even comparing it to the "ds" version). The resolution is much lower than that of an iPad mini (2048x1536), or even of some cell phones (LG makes a 2560x1440 5.5" screen). The TV industry seems to be more enthusiaistic about moving to higher (4K) resolutions than most Windows computer manufacturers. In fact, with a couple of exceptions, almost all laptop makers have gone backward (from 1920x1200 to 1920x1080). With hesitation, I started considering a move to the expected update of the 17" MacBook Pro (with Windows installed) but, with Jobs gone, "salesmen" seem to be leading the company once again: the market for their most powerful laptop was small, so they eliminated it. The industry needs leaders who are not only salesmen but also geeks themselves, like Jobs (& Wozniak), Morita & Ibuka, Packard & Hewlett, or perhaps even an outsider geek, like Linus Torvalds (who has been rattling the "low-resolution" laptop cage for years).

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2016-01-26, 2:41 AM
Will there be a P70DS though?
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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2016-01-31, 23:11 PM

Finally!!!

 

I have used my beloved W700 since September of 2008.  This superb beast has served me well for all of this time -- there was nothing from Lenovo or any other maker which could really compare to it.

 

After growing old awaiting a worthy successor, my new P70 has arrived.  A brief review (more to come, later):

 

While not quite as lovely or massive as its older sibling, it is still a wonderful machine -- the 4K display is exactly what we've all been  yearning for.  Clear, crisp and adequately bright -- makes the W700's great Wide UXGA look positively coarse by contrast.  64 GB of ECC-RAM with the Xeon is a joy to behold along with the new Quadro 4000.  It is bit more svelte and comfortable to carry -- fits nicely and tightly into a Samsonite 17" - capable "Mobile Office" wheeled case.  230 Watt Power brick is flatter and seemingly better designed, with a standard removable, grounded AC cable.

 

Each of the 32-bit composite benchmarks rates this machine overall as about 3 times the power of the W700 with Quad-Core Extreme CPU and 8 GB.  The truth is, it is closer to 25 times as fast on disk access (PCI NVMe SSD) as the original HDDs, at least 10 times as fast on graphics. It boots to Windows 7 Pro in less than 10 seconds.  I have not, despite my best efforts, been able to cause the CPU to register more than about 20% utilization with "normal" tasks.

 

The trackPoint is even better than earlier versions and even the touchpad (which I never before liked), works extremely well.  Both have great, very large large buttons -- Lenovo finally listened to us.  They restored one LED (for HDD) and the new-style keyboard has a few embedded LEDs.  Backlighting on keybard is not special -- I do miss the Thinklight and other status LEDs for BT and WiFi.

 

Speaking of the keyboard, I am also surprised that it is very useable and comfortable -- not as elegant as the old Selectric style to look at but very pleasant to use -- the typing height seems just right for a good experience and keys very easy to find -- with hands in typing position, the large, slightly concave surfaces seem just right.

 

A few other minor complaints -- camera could be much better, miss the Blueray writer (DVD-RW tray button is just stupid), wish the lid latched close, etc.  USB ports do not seem as quick as they should be -- these are small complaints but there should be no compromises from a machine of this caliber.  Overall build quality seems superb.

 

Overall, a very wonderful machine and worthy successor to the W700 series.  With a 4K screen (and the ability to add at least 2 more external ones) you probably wouldn't miss the DS's second screen.

 

Give the P70 a try -- you'll be glad you did!

 

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Re: Bring back the W700 series!!!

2016-02-06, 4:33 AM

You've got me excited, as I too have an aging W700DS (I'm typing on it right now) and I too have ordered a P70 (it arrives next week) with the Xeon CPU & 4k display, albeit with just a 256gig PCIe SSD, 32GB of RAM and the M3000 video chip. (As a financial guy, even that much is probably total overkill, but at least I know it's futureproof for a while.) I'm glad you like yours so much!

 

I still love the second display on my W700DS, though-- the best portable external displays are a bit too big and heavy to clip on comfortably, although in a pinch I could use my iPad along with a SideCar clip.

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