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How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-10, 9:04 AM

I found this page - cardinfo with this little program that is suppose to check OpenGL support. The OpenGL is suppose to be 2.1 but on the list there is little symbols "y" in the column that suppose to represent support (second to last). yet I can't really read the table right so it might be ok.

 

The 2.1 OpenGL is read with driver version 8.543-081008a-070875C-ATI (from IBM/lenovo website )

Is there any other way to verify that?

 

I though everything is ok but then when I run Revit Architecture and check "OpenGl hardware support" the overall performance drops and it even seems like sometimes the card "chokes" and give you that annoying loud Beep from the inside of the computer. Anyone experience it as well? oh, I'm running Vista 32.

 

Also do I understand it correctly - my workstation class video card is suppose to boost the performance in CAD applications so rotating object should be quicker? Or perhaps its only the view quality, antialiasing and shading should be better and overall speed of the view (fps) remains the same. I thought it is the former but so far I haven't observed any improvement over nVidia Quadro nvs 140m which isn't even meant for CAD applications   

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-22, 12:00 PM

I didn't know the program you indicated, but it looks trustworthy.

I used OpenGL extensions viewer from http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/

You'll find its output easier to read.

 

Now, the thing is, both of these programs do nothing but display the information that the driver reports.

The only problem is, do all OpenGL extensions that the driver says it implements actually work?

 

If you download the NVIDIA OpenGL SDK for instance, many samples do not work due to lack of some OpenGL extensions (as it would be expectable, obviously); however, some samples which should work (because they check the presence of the OpenGL extensions they use), actually crash the driver.

 

For that reason, I still have my doubts, but didn't yet have the time to narrow the search to a specific set of OpenGL extensions.

 

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-22, 12:00 PM

I didn't know the program you indicated, but it looks trustworthy.

I used OpenGL extensions viewer from http://www.realtech-vr.com/glview/

You'll find its output easier to read.

 

Now, the thing is, both of these programs do nothing but display the information that the driver reports.

The only problem is, do all OpenGL extensions that the driver says it implements actually work?

 

If you download the NVIDIA OpenGL SDK for instance, many samples do not work due to lack of some OpenGL extensions (as it would be expectable, obviously); however, some samples which should work (because they check the presence of the OpenGL extensions they use), actually crash the driver.

 

For that reason, I still have my doubts, but didn't yet have the time to narrow the search to a specific set of OpenGL extensions.

 

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-28, 9:33 AM

There is the GPU Drive Crash whenever I run Open GL 2.1 benchmark from realtech.

The same happens if I try to start my favorite Enemy Territory Quake Wars, after GUI is loaded game crash and windows notification appears "ATI driver has stopped working..."

Funny, isn`t it?

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-28, 9:54 AM

Thanks for the link mingle! It is actually helpful to see that the card can display graphics correctly whit opengl driver or at least I recon the benchmark is definite.

 

northmilo

It doesn't crash for me so might it be wrong driver installed on your computer? You are running the 8.543 driver mentioned by MarkLenovo in another thread, right? It should work

 

Only thing I could do now is compare the scores, my W500 scores 88 frames with the scene "multiple cubes" on opengl 2.1 (the rest is default). If it is the correct value (which I have no reason to believe otherwise) than I can say that my cards is ok and Revit Architecture is crap when it comes to hardware compability. Tough luck, I will probably not be able to use my W500 to its full extent

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-28, 11:51 AM
I think I hear that loud beep you are talking about occasionally too. Allthou my first impression was it was associated with the hd in my ultrabay caddy actually. It just happens, might even happen when I'm not even using the computer when just running idle. But nothing is affected by the looks of it afterwards.
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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-28, 13:29 PM

The sound I am hearing only happens when display is set to openGL accelerated in Revit Architecture (and possibly with 3ds max on opengl because it is sluggish). It happens in plan view when I pan around quickly a large project. So my guess is something like an overload of the driver somehow. Ans the source of the sound is somewhere top left of the base. Perhaps its the internal speaker (same as for undocking and unplugging AC) but definitely it has to do with too much load on 2d display.

I've never heard this sound on idle.

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-29, 6:14 AM

Hi,

driver I am using is 8.52.4.5-081002a-070479C-Lenovo Provider. This is the latest one from lenovo I could reach.

Let me know how to obtain 8.53 or newer if possible.

Does the beep appear when you work on battery, power adapter or docked?

I consider buying advanced mini dock but if there are some disadvatages at the moment I will wait.

Thanks for advice.

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-29, 9:50 AM

northmilo,

 

The one you have, 8.52.4.5, is the newest which supports switchable graphics and is the one I use.

I think there used to be one for the "Discrete" setting on the thinkpad driver matrix but it went away...

 

I ran the OpenGL tests again and you're right, the OpenGL 2.1 test crashes the driver.

It's funny I didn't notice before, because running these tests was the first thing I did when the computer arrived.

 

It looks like the previous driver, the one before December 16, didn't crash on this same benchmark.

 

However, doing only the OpenGL 1.1 to 2.0 tests, with the multiplecube scene and even some texture filtering, fox and a few other options I always get framerates like 250-300, etc, never as low as 88. (didn't print the results because it crashed on OpenGL 2.1)

 

 

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-29, 10:56 AM

The latest semi-official drivers are here  - http://www-307.ibm.com/pc/support/site.wss/document.do?sitestyle=lenovo&lndocid=MIGR-71022

 

They will not support switchable graphics but they apparently do support openGL 2.1

You need to switch to discrete graphics in bios in order to install them

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Re: How to check OpenGL support and a Beep from graphics card

2009-01-29, 18:36 PM

Thank you guys.

I will wait a little more for official drivers release. Hopefully I do not work with 3D programs at the moment.

According to strange beep it mostly happens during windows startup or after freeze!

 

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