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Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-09-26, 1:14 AM

Dear Lenovo, it is time for you to drop your ridiculous high prices if you want to start selling W700s because the Dell Precision Worstation M6400 just came out and it's going to kick you in the face in so many levels.

 

I just configured a W700 and M6400 with the exact components and Dell comes up $1000 cheaper!!! Sure the M6400 doesn't have color calibration, the Wacom, the useless BluRay drive or the wonderful keyboard that Lenovo's owners are so proud of. But the M6400 gets up to 16GB of RAM (great for HD size renderings with Mental Ray,) great screen and pretty similar quality components but at a much better price (SSD drive or the Intel Quad QX9300, $500 cheaper on the M6400!!)

 

Don't get me wrong. I'm in no way a Dell fanboy or trying to start a flame thread. I just go with the facts and as much as I like Lenovo's machine, it better start doing something (lowering the price?) if it want a piece of the worstation pie.

 

What do people think about these two machines?

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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-09-26, 2:37 AM
In order to lower the price they will have to drop something. Then others will complain about the cheapening of the Thinkpad line. What should they lose to get the price down?
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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-09-26, 3:11 AM

Pepe wrote:

I just configured a W700 and M6400 with the exact components and Dell comes up $1000 cheaper!!! Sure the M6400 doesn't have color calibration, the Wacom, the useless BluRay drive or the wonderful keyboard that Lenovo's owners are so proud of.


i think you answered your own question.   an external wacom intuos3 tablet costs $250 to $650 depending on size, an entry-level x-rite colorimeter ranges from $175 to $250, and a BD-R drive is $300 to $500.   fit those components into a notebook and their costs increase exponentially. ;)

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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-09-26, 14:45 PM
Those whom who will buy the machine will buy it, if they are looking for a cheaper machine with less feature then they would obviously not look for the W700. It is like BMW starts selling cheaper RR Phantom to compete with the Bentley Arnage T. Great feature comes at great prices. 
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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-09-30, 1:13 AM

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In order to lower the price they will have to drop something. Then others will complain about the cheapening of the Thinkpad line. What should they lose to get the price down?

 Well, that's the thing, I don't think Lenovo needs to lower the quality of its notebooks. This is the first time they offer a workstation for "artists" and if they want to get costumers interested, they need to offer something more than just a wacom and a color calibration gimmick that most of us will never use. The exact same machine configured at Dell is $1000 cheaper due to a $500 less charge on the Intel Quad QX9300 and probably a better deal when Dell gets the components. Either that or Lenovo is too greedy and wants to rip off their clients. Quality wise I'm sure they are on par with each other. We have several Dell M60s in the company and never gave us a single problem. Keep in mind that we carry these machines to every meeting with clients and not seat on top of a desktop all day. The IT guys have Lenovo and they seem very happy with them too.

 

I guess we will have to wait for the reviews in one month or so...
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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-09-30, 1:39 AM
a great computer is more than the sum of its part, Lenovo since owning Thinkpad have lowered prices where it could, to better compete with HP and Dell, Lenovo wouldn't charge the 1000 dollar premium over competitor when it doesn't have too. I think Lenovo will offer a W700 without the wacom board, so that should bring down the price. 
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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-10-01, 5:00 AM
I'm not exactly sure what's being compared but I spec'ed both systems with as similar components as I could and I came out with the Dell being cheaper by $54, but with a 7200rpm 320GB drive versus the W700's 5400rpm 320GB - not much between them.  I didn't add the Wacom, Blu-ray, or color calibration because then I'm comparing two notebooks with different specs, which is not a controlled comparison.
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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-10-02, 1:22 AM

Well, well, well... it seems that Lenovo just reduced the price of pretty much all its components for the W700!!:smileyvery-happy:

 

rmmdjmdam is right, now  even the W700 is cheaper than the M6400! One little thing to notice though... the old prices of the components that show up while customizing the W700 (to see how much you are saving) are not the same as the "original" ones... but who cares!

 

Thanks for listening Lenovo! Can't wait to see the reviews and some benchies!!

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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-10-02, 2:48 AM
I don't think the price cuts have anything to do with your whining :smileywink:
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Re: Lenovo W700 VS...

2008-10-03, 0:17 AM

I'm pretty sure of that chibislick :smileytongue:

 

As happy as I am for seing Lenovo cuting its W700 prices to compete with the rest of its rivals on the notebook workstation segment (Dell, HP, Apple, Eurocom...) it just looks terrible to see it on sale even before it's been released:smileyindifferent:

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